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Stephanie
Hi, I'm Stephanie.

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Seth
I'm Seth, and this is the Forever Young show. The most powerful force in this world is a woman who knows who she is, why? She is here, and what she wants to accomplish.

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Stephanie
And that's where self-care comes in. As a woman, it is my opportunity and my responsibility to take care of me.

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Seth
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Stephanie
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Seth
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Stephanie
Our mission is to serve women as they fulfill their irreplaceable roles and families. Society. Business. The fabric of humanity.

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Seth
So let's get this show on the road.

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Stephanie
Thank you, Lisa, for taking the time to be with us.

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Lisa
Yeah. Thank you for having me.

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Stephanie
So what are you most passionate about right now and what are you doing about it.

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Lisa
So I think right now the thing I'm most passionate about in this time in my life is my family just being really real. I have three girls that are all hitting early teens. My oldest are twins that are 13. My youngest is 12. So they're all hitting that transition and it's just I'm seeing them grow into amazing people and it's just hitting me how important it is to be able to show up for them, but not just show up with for them with time, but also just my focus.

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Lisa
Be able to show up for them healthwise so I can do things with them. But it ends up being like my central motivation for a lot of what I do is because I want to be there for them and make sure I have that time for both them and my husband and my family. So yeah, right now they're kind of my center of my world.

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Stephanie
What's your favorite thing to do with your girls?

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Lisa
So right now, one of my favorite things to do. So they're they're dancers. So I like, turning on some music and dancing a ton with them. My older teens are a little bit more shy with it. And like, I get a little bit more of the eye rolls.

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Lisa
Of, oh, the crowd, the cringe, my little. This one will jump out and start shimmying with me. She's like, how old is she? She's 12. I don't think she's ever going to change. She's she's like, exactly like me at.

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Lisa
That age.

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Lisa
Except the youngest child. So she's a bigger, bolder version of how I was. But age and I love it. So that's one of the things that we love doing right now. Another thing is because.

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Lisa
We live so close to the mountains, hiking and getting outside just in nature and walking our dog. So my husband is a humongous animal person. So we have for the house that we live in, the amount of.

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Lisa
Animals we have three dogs.

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Lisa
A cat, a hamster, a.

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Lisa
Tortoise, and a bunch of fish. Like we have everything usually. And so taking the dogs out.

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Lisa
Just getting a little bit of sunshine and nature is kind of especially when I've been working.

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Lisa
All day long and busy and life, it's nice to.

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Lisa
Just get out with them, hear about their day, like creating those moments right now where they'll just talk is really important to me, and allowing there to be that silence so that they feel like they can share things. And so it's been fun because that's I think those are the moments when you truly hear what's going on in their minds and in their hearts, and you really understand them as people and they you start building that trust or continue building that trust that will be so important as they grow up into young women.

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Lisa
And so setting that foundation now and making sure that they know they always have that time is incredibly important for me.

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Stephanie
Oh, definitely.

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Lisa
Because I think otherwise. It's so easy for us to just get so focused on doing activities that are so busy. Where we're not, we're together but we're not really together and we're not really getting to have conversations. And so that's been one of my focuses is to ensure we have those opportunities to have conversations and get to really like get to know them as they're growing up and be able to pour into them and then honestly have them pour back into me because they're going to be really cool.

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Lisa
So it's fun to see that. Yes.

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Seth
So interesting. You're talking about the central motivation. Yeah. For your health. In fact, Stephanie I were literally just talking about this on the way over and it's kind of been a subject of some conversations that, that I've had recently. Sometimes you talk about generational curses, right. And especially women who are who I feel like there's this movement to break generational curses.

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Lisa
Right. Very much so.

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Stephanie
I like to call them generational trauma. Yes, I really like the curse word.

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Lisa
But yeah, trauma. I think it's.

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Seth
A no cursing. I will not be cursing. So surprise, surprise. What about generational patterns? I also like to not creating new generational patterns.

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Lisa
Exactly.

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Seth
But as a career woman, right? I mean, you, you you currently serve as the vice president and you work for a publicly traded company? Yes. Vice president of research and development.

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Lisa
Yes. And regulatory.

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Seth
And regulatory.

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Lisa
Yeah. That one's a new one in the last.

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Lisa
Couple of weeks. Okay. So yeah. So yes. Busy.

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Seth
Yeah. So so can can you talk about how that has shifted. You have a very successful career which has flourished. I mean your, your I don't want to say you're at the apex of your career, but but you're going great. It's going great. I'll take it. You're career. You're living in crescendo. Yes. Right. But that motivation, can you just kind of tie that the career and the motivation for the family and your girls.

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Lisa
Yeah. So one of the things that my husband and I talked about really early on in our relationship when we were dating, we met my freshman year of college and his sophomore year of college, right at the end is I've always been very driven. And my mother, she was a biochemist. She did research and development, and so she balanced.

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Lisa
She did that for a while, and then she was at home. So she did both lives. But I've always been really driven to do something for my career. I've been very.

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Lisa
Passionate. I'm very Type-A. I get straight A's, I was very passionate.

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Lisa
And so when I was talking to my husband, I'm like, this is really what my passion is. I do really want kids, but I do want this to be part of it. I want them to see that them to see me achieving my dreams and being able to accomplish what I've always wanted. And so he's always been because he's always known about it and communicated about it, very supportive of it.

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Lisa
So a lot of our transitions throughout of our marriage, where we've moved, what we've done, have been in support of that. And so actually right now he's stay at home with our family, and that's what's making me able to do the job that I have right now and ensure when I am done with work, that I get that quality time with the family because he's taking care of everything at home.

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Lisa
He's doing all the housework in the yard, work he drives girls to and from everywhere into lessons and everything he does for moms.

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Lisa
And yeah, he's.

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Lisa
Doing all of that work, which is beautiful. And so it's been such a blessing for me because then I know when I get home because he's like, when you get home, you don't need to be worried about this. You need to be spending time with us. Like, that's because that's my central, that's my priority. And so he makes it possible for me.

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Lisa
So if I didn't have that relationship, if we hadn't set those standards and that expectation right at the beginning of our relationship, I think it could have been really difficult with how driven that I am. But because he always knew and because he kind of and he agreed with it, he's always been a wonderful support and kind of talking about generational.

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Lisa
It's been tricky because his parents are a little bit more traditional, and they very much assumed that the minute I had children, I would go home and he would change his job. And so I think it took them actually seeing us raising our children in the way that we were and seeing how like they just were growing up really well and very well taken care of and loved to see that there were multiple ways to be able to do this, and that I was still able to pour very much into my children through this way.

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Lisa
One of the things I love is before each school year, my girls are homeschooled, so there's another person who lives in my house besides my dad. It's my mother, which has been another blessing for me with this career is I have multiple adults who are pouring into my children while I'm doing things. So she's in her 70s now, but early in her 60s, she retired.

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Lisa
She wanted to help homeschool the girls, and so she's been doing that since they were in first grade and now they're in high school. So it's been amazing. But before each of their school years, they always have a little sign of, I am Alana Barnes or I'm Jenna Barnes, and I'm going into this grade and I want to be this when I grow up.

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Lisa
And what I always loved was seeing what they would pick when they would grow up, because the sky really was there never was a limit of what they could be. They're like, oh yeah, of course I could be. Well, one of them wanted to be a space princess.

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Lisa
For a while, which was awesome. I was like, that's like the ultimate job right there. But doctors, surgeon.

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Lisa
Vet, like whatever they thought of, they're like, oh no, it's like there's nothing that's keeping me from doing this. It's just what I what do I want to do? And so I feel like because my husband supported me, because I always had strong dreams and ambitions, and they've seen that they feel like they can as well, but then they know that if they don't want to necessarily do that, if they decide not to go into the workforce and they want to be at home with kids, like they're going to get just as much support from us because it's a beautiful, like beautiful jobs no matter what.

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Lisa
Each of the roles are incredibly important. But yeah, it all comes back to that communication and that support early on in our relationship.

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Lisa
Otherwise this would not be possible because I would not have time for all of the things like I yeah, I already juggle enough and that would be.

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Lisa
Too much juggling.

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Stephanie
Absolutely. That would be a lot.

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Seth
Well, the thing is, you're telling that story. What stood out to me as part of your success recipe in your family, with you and your husband leading to the leading to the the girls is communication.

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Lisa
Oh, very much so.

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Seth
Like just so you know, like, we don't always have to agree and that's okay. But if we don't communicate.

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Lisa
Oh, it's a nonstarter.

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Seth
Expectations. My expectations of myself. Expectations I may have of that partner what that looks like. And those are probably going to change because they have their expectations of themselves. Like this is who I am. Just so you know, just, you know, Joe, this is who I am. This is what I'm looking for. Yes. Right.

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Lisa
And it's pretty funny because I have one sister who's a couple years younger than me, and she's actually a surgeon, so she's a surgeon, and she runs a residency program in Southern Illinois. So she's also very driven as well.

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Lisa
And like, we didn't really talk about it. But around the same.

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Lisa
Time, because we got married very close to the same time, she had the same, same discussion with her now.

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Lisa
Husband of.

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Lisa
I am feel very called to do like medicine in some way, and that ended up being surgery. She's like, you can join me on this journey, I would love to have.

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Lisa
You, but this is what it's going.

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Lisa
To be. And then when they started talking about kids, she's like, I, I never want to be a stay at home mom. I will love any kids we have, but I want to have this career. I've worked really hard for it. So he's a stay at home dad as well. But because they had the conversation from day one, then there's not that resentment.

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Lisa
There was just a growing together and he's been very supportive of her as she's done things. She make sure he has time for his passions as well. And so it's just that mutual respect. And yeah, it starts with conversation and making sure it's open for communication, that it's not just one way and that it's constant. It's not just you set the expectations once and then never change.

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Lisa
Because, I mean, you're married. I've been married 15 years.

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Lisa
And so like.

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Lisa
People, we change over that time hopefully.

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Lisa
I mean, if we stayed stagnant.

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Lisa
That would be horrible. We're going to grow and shift as people. And that's the challenge of relationships as you're both growing and changing and you just want to grow and change together and bring out the best in each other. And that comes from communication. And we definitely.

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Lisa
Don't always do it perfectly. But I feel.

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Lisa
Like the longer we've been married, the more we've been able.

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Lisa
To get better at.

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Lisa
It, and being more empathetic to each other and listening more and not just assuming.

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Seth
We, we have, you know, this this thing called content communication. Yeah, we picked up from a counselor or seminar or something and which has been, I think, super helpful for us.

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Lisa
Oh, yeah.

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Seth
Which is.

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Stephanie
Helpful.

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Seth
Which is because there's so many nuances in communication. Yeah. Right. And sometimes people say things, but they actually don't mean.

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Lisa
Oh yes, what.

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Seth
They say. Right.

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Lisa
That's why I love face to face communication so much more than any sort of written communication.

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Lisa
And it's very.

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Lisa
Much part of my leadership style on my team is you're in a building with everyone you need to.

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Lisa
Talk to most of the time, like go down and have a conversation to them face to face because.

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Lisa
So many things with tone are very hard to translate over written word. And you just if you're not in someone's presence, you can't see the facial expressions, hear the tone, understand the energy behind.

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Lisa
It makes such a difference.

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Seth
Huge, huge huge huge. And you talk about tarnation around. Well, and then you introduce, you know, other generational patterns. Sarcasm potentially. Right. Oh yeah. Resentment and all these other things. And so this, this form of communication means that if you say it, you mean it. Yes. Right. And and it really is about being responsible yourself for the communication that you're putting out and not making the other person read your mind, read your body language.

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Seth
I mean, I, I believe in reading people's energy and their body language, but at the same time.

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Lisa
Like, you can't expect.

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Seth
The relationship like there is no mind reading. And if I need something, then it's my responsibility.

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Lisa
To ask for it.

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Seth
Tell you. I tell you what I need, all right, right know.

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Lisa
Being clear and so that there, there can be that communication is so important because yeah, I think that's like I think everyone struggles with that early on in relationships.

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Lisa
You're like, no, because I think it's because parents yes, parents, you become so good at reading what your children need that you can anticipate it. So I think.

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Lisa
It's we grow up. We've become used to someone always anticipating our needs.

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Lisa
And so then when we progress into adulthood, we bring some of that into our new relationships and.

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Lisa
And then have to realize, oh.

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Lisa
It's a very different dynamic. And they've not lived with me for 18, 19, 20 years and can pick up all know all that.

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Lisa
It's not fair of me to expect that we need to have those conversations. So I think it's just part of becoming an adult and realizing that not every relationship is going to be that exact relationship that you have with your parents, but it's just such a different dynamic. And with.

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Lisa
Everybody else, you have to be a little.

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Lisa
Bit more.

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Lisa
Forward and like what you're actually asking for and what you need because, yeah, they can't read your mind or they're going.

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Lisa
To read it wrong and you're gonna get frustrated. And then it leads to resentment and all these negative patterns.

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Stephanie
When I was in therapy, when I was married to my first husband. Yeah, this was something that we talked about. And the therapist had said, if you expect your spouse or whomever, you know, you're having the communication with to read your mind, it's like having a script for a play, but only you know what's supposed to happen.

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Stephanie
And the, you know, the parts, and they're trying to figure out what their part is.

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Lisa
Exactly.

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Stephanie
And so when they get it wrong, then you get upset at them for getting it wrong, even though they don't know this because.

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Lisa
You have all.

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Lisa
The dialog in your head. Yes. No. That makes complete sense. Yeah. But then you feel very you're like, no, you should know exactly what this is. This is yeah, we know each other, but right.

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Seth
Or if I have to tell you what I'm feeling.

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Lisa
Yeah, it defeats the purpose. I think you should. You should love me enough to know that you should know.

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Seth
You should know what I need.

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Lisa
And it's just. You know what I have to ask? Yes, you have to have that communication. We're actually with raising, like teen girls and pre-teen girls and the communication.

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Lisa
Between each other like them is really important because they do.

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Lisa
A lot of expecting mind reading or reading tones wrong. And so we're having a lot of these conversations as well.

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Lisa
Is that like you need to, like, read, like listen to your tones. Be careful the tone you use when you.

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Lisa
Talk to them.

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Lisa
You need to be more explicit in what you need.

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Lisa
Very grateful when they do help you like some of these basic communication things. But because your sisters, you tend to like mow them over and they just. Yeah. And it causes squabbling for like, no, this is the perfect time before you really get too much into high school to, like, fix these communication patterns because you're gonna end up best friends as you get older.

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Lisa
But let's let's like smooth, like smooth as you grow up.

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Stephanie
Let's let's figure it out. Yeah.

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Lisa
Let's figure it out now. Yeah.

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Stephanie
Well it it definitely will help relationships. You know when they, if they choose to get married. Yeah I'll help them to already know that.

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Lisa
Exactly. They've already modeled at some and have some experience with it and go into it expecting it. So it's not as much of a surprise then. So yes.

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Lisa
Huge. So we're working on it. It's still still work in progress because the joys of teenagers. But yes.

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Stephanie
We know that. Yeah we so our blended family, we have a gap of about nine and a half years. And so we've got, you know, the teenagers are kind of out of teenage now. But and then with our younger girls, they are I swear they think that they're teenagers.

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Lisa
Oh yes. There's always that. Yes.

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Seth
Eight and six.

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Lisa
Oh yes. That's when they age. When it starts coming out, they feel like they're so grown up. And then they hit like 13 and then they're like, no, I still want to be little. Like they kind of hit that, but they're like, no, I still want to cuddle with you and still like, yeah, I want to be back.

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Lisa
I don't want to be grown up yet, but it's eight and six. They think they want to be grown up and out of the house.

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Stephanie
Oh yeah. Yeah. The words they use are.

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Lisa
The oh oh yeah, yeah. That comes out. Yeah yeah yeah. So you're just like, well I guess we are becoming little people.

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Stephanie
They're it's true, it's true. I'm like a she thinks she's 16. But sometimes I just have to laugh it off.

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Lisa
Exactly. Yeah. Not take it too personally. I just feel like it's just a stage. And I will love them in each stage that they're in. And also acknowledge it's just a stage. It's just a stage. And we'll give it a few more days and it'll shift to something else, and I'll discover something else that it may be better, it may be more challenging, but part of parenting.

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Stephanie
Totally.

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Seth
Wasn't planning on talking about this, but we have we have this common crossover because we we've done various types of education in schooling. You know, some private tutors. We've obviously done a lot of public school. We've done charter schools. We're currently doing well. We're currently homeschooling. We've done that often a long time. And my mother, my parents live, you know, in the same residence that we do.

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Lisa
Oh that's.

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Seth
Awesome. My mom, I think she's the one who instigated it, though.

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Stephanie
She's like, she did.

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Seth
Yeah. I'm a little concerned about where you all, are doing your education. They need to be. You know, this is a couple of years ago, actually. Was this before she even moved in? Knows it after. Knows they've been with us for about a year and a half. But I think they should be at a certain level.

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Seth
What are you guys doing? And can I help? So she actually is. Is this is this the school master?

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Lisa
Oh, is she okay?

00:18:59:07 - 00:19:04:11
Stephanie
And she wants to know that at first I had that mom guilt set in. I'm like, oh, I should be doing that.

00:19:04:11 - 00:19:08:21
Lisa
Oh, no. The minute my mother offered it, I was like, yes, please, Florida.

00:19:08:23 - 00:19:11:15
Lisa
And she retired and she's like, I would love to move near you and.

00:19:11:15 - 00:19:15:22
Lisa
Homeschool the girls. And I was like, can I find you a house tomorrow night? Because we were.

00:19:16:00 - 00:19:28:20
Lisa
Doing split shift at that point where I was working all day, and then my husband would we crossover for 30 minutes, and then he would go work till like one in the morning. And so we would barely see each other. And we did that for five years. And it was hard.

00:19:28:22 - 00:19:31:15
Lisa
And so the minute she offered that, I was like, we can like, this.

00:19:31:16 - 00:19:53:14
Lisa
Is our last chance. Yeah. And also she at home school and myself and my sister all the way up to high school and she's fantastic. Like she, like I said, she was a biochemist. She's just brilliant. And she's really a compassionate person. I knew she would do fantastic with them. And it's been great because the most important thing for me with them was that they kind of grew to love learning.

00:19:53:16 - 00:20:05:20
Lisa
I didn't want it to be a source of stress for them or something that they felt like they had to be perfect at. I wanted to create that. Learners mindset that whatever they wanted to put their mind to, they felt like there was a pathway for them to get there. And she's.

00:20:05:20 - 00:20:07:22
Lisa
Done such a great job where.

00:20:08:00 - 00:20:10:07
Lisa
Even if something's like a subject that they don't like.

00:20:10:07 - 00:20:12:06
Lisa
As much, like some of them, one of mine doesn't like math.

00:20:12:06 - 00:20:17:22
Lisa
Very much. There's still like they still have a learner's mindset towards it. It's not just like, I.

00:20:17:22 - 00:20:20:15
Lisa
Can't do this because I'm dumb. It's this.

00:20:20:15 - 00:20:38:21
Lisa
Is challenging. It's going to take a little bit more time, but I can get there. It just might take me a different pathway. And so she's been great because it helps. When she was schooling myself and my sister, we both learn in very, very different ways, and our brains work very differently. So she saw two. She had to teach two different ways.

00:20:38:23 - 00:20:46:17
Lisa
And so a lot of those same patterns are showing up in my girls as well. And she's like, okay, bringing back some of those old muscles from when I was schooling.

00:20:46:17 - 00:21:07:11
Lisa
You and learning that you can do a little bit more individualized schooling and really cater to how they are learning to spark that creativity and spark that. And then when she sees things that they're interested in, she can dive a little bit more deeper into them and really foster that instead of skimming over it like you do in some other ways of schooling, just because of logistics, to be honest.

00:21:07:11 - 00:21:11:10
Seth
Because 30 to 30 people in it, it's it's just it's just tricky.

00:21:11:10 - 00:21:12:10
Lisa
And you just don't get the.

00:21:12:12 - 00:21:12:20
Lisa
Yeah.

00:21:12:20 - 00:21:20:10
Seth
It's a factory. And this is what here's what we have here, the parts here's where we need to get. And we're going to that conveyor belt has to move.

00:21:20:11 - 00:21:37:15
Lisa
Yeah. And it just makes it. Yeah. There's there's challenges with that. And so it's just been really good for them because I've seen them grow and really mature. And then yeah like I mentioned earlier like the sky's the limit for what they want to be when they grow up because they're like oh of course like like why.

00:21:37:15 - 00:21:52:23
Lisa
Couldn't I do this? I mean, it's so funny to see what it swings from because one of mine wanted to be a surgeon for a while, and she's practicing all her sutures and everything. And then this year she's like, oh, I'm going to be a writer. And I was like, well, that was a shift. I was like, I was like, when you were going to be a surgeon, I was going to like, have you take care of me when I was older?

00:21:52:23 - 00:22:10:11
Lisa
But I was like, damn, I have no, I it's been so great to see that. She's just like, yeah, I'm free to switch to whatever kind of my interests are like leading towards. And also I'm like, you're in ninth grade. It's going to change. So many times I was like, I went to college in my major change. So I was like, you're probably going into for the same thing.

00:22:10:14 - 00:22:11:07
Lisa

00:22:11:09 - 00:22:15:07
Seth
But what the underlying that is the is, is the foundation.

00:22:15:07 - 00:22:16:03
Lisa
Oh, yeah.

00:22:16:05 - 00:22:37:22
Seth
And the confidence. And the challenge. Right. I'm just looking at your family and thinking wow. Like every, every family that is thinking about homeschool needs to listen to this little segment. Not for this is how you do it. Now he's not ever he's going to have a biochemist mom move in with you know, like.

00:22:38:00 - 00:22:40:20
Lisa
Like if we hadn't have had that happen, it wouldn't have been even an.

00:22:40:20 - 00:22:42:06
Lisa
Option. So.

00:22:42:08 - 00:22:43:00
Seth
So that's beautiful.

00:22:43:00 - 00:23:05:08
Lisa
I mean, you have to think of your own circumstances and what works best for your family. And there's no shame to whatever way you end up having to do it. But I think it just shows the importance of regardless of whatever way you end up doing schooling, like your involvement in it is so important because you can help foster that love of learning, even if they are in a private school or a public school, because you have that time with them at home, so you can help spark it.

00:23:05:10 - 00:23:21:09
Lisa
So you just have to be a little bit more creative because you don't have that. Maybe that dedicated time during the day, but it's still something that you can do. So yeah, I think it's important, regardless of whatever you end up doing with your children, whatever works best with your family, but you can still pour into them that way.

00:23:21:11 - 00:23:23:01
Seth
What we'd like to do. Oh, you're gonna say something.

00:23:23:05 - 00:23:40:05
Stephanie
Yeah, I was just going to go back to the mom guilt thing. Yeah, but how? I was feeling so much mom guilt. And then my mother in law came to me and was like, getting teary eyed and saying, thank you so much for letting me teach them. I'm having so much fun. And then I was like, oh, I don't have to feel guilty.

00:23:40:05 - 00:23:41:04
Lisa
About no, this is a.

00:23:41:04 - 00:24:01:19
Lisa
Blessing for her. No, it's the same for my mother as well. Especially she's gotten into her early 70s. Like it just gives her purpose. Definitely. And and then I see the benefits and but I didn't realize how much they were helping her, especially as they've been getting older, too. Like, they'll do things for her without asking. And they just have that wonderful relationship with her that they might not have had.

00:24:02:00 - 00:24:05:21
Lisa
And so it's beautiful to see them have that.

00:24:05:23 - 00:24:22:18
Stephanie
She was doing the core work with them this schooling. And I was like, well, maybe, maybe you should do some, you know, art stuff or do something fun so they don't associate grandma with just like, the core harder stuff. Yeah. And she was like, no, I think I'll leave that to you.

00:24:22:23 - 00:24:24:02
Lisa
You're like the fun stuff.

00:24:24:02 - 00:24:26:08
Stephanie
I'm like, all right, I'll take that.

00:24:26:10 - 00:24:34:02
Seth
Although she has incorporated a little bit a little bit of fun reward. Yeah. You know, just like not as structured.

00:24:34:03 - 00:24:35:02
Lisa
Yeah.

00:24:35:04 - 00:24:39:15
Seth
After school, after school I mean they're, they do school two hours a day right.

00:24:39:15 - 00:24:39:23
Lisa
Yeah.

00:24:40:01 - 00:25:10:20
Seth
The first day it's hard reading and math and whatnot. And and then they, they're, they look forward to, oh, we're going to watch a TV program on, you know, safaris or whatever. And they watch that with grandpa or whatever. And, but it's it's fun to watch them grow in that. Mom came to me just yesterday or the day before and she said, Hannah is reading so fast, like because they're eight and six, so they're pretty close.

00:25:10:20 - 00:25:11:14
Lisa
Yeah.

00:25:11:16 - 00:25:30:16
Seth
And so a year, year and a half ago when they started their levels were closer than, you know, then they might I mean you've got you've got the younger sister always kind of pushing that limit and really close to her, you know, older sister and and we, we had we have a I want to say a loose educational philosophy.

00:25:30:18 - 00:25:52:23
Seth
Our philosophy is at least a getting to exactly what your daughters are experiencing. Here's who I am. Character development. My belief systems are way more important than any subject matter, even reading. Right. Because that's a skill. And so that that was where we were. Yeah.

00:25:52:23 - 00:25:57:02
Lisa
To if you address those core that I mean then they'll build all those skills.

00:25:57:02 - 00:25:58:07
Seth
You build a foundation.

00:25:58:09 - 00:25:59:07
Lisa
It's foundation right.

00:25:59:07 - 00:26:08:14
Seth
Yeah. And moms like they need to be reading right now. I'm like, mom, here's where we are. We're really concerned about who they are as opposed to what?

00:26:08:16 - 00:26:09:04
Lisa
Yeah. What they can.

00:26:09:04 - 00:26:34:06
Seth
Do, you know, and how we'll get there. But yes okay. Great. We can definitely improve. So so that's where she's put her focus. Yeah. And that's amazing for her now to say yes. And then in the last day or so Hannah's cruising and and she's not getting stuck on these harder things. She's, she's sticking with it. She's reading and and Ruth isn't at her level anymore.

00:26:34:06 - 00:26:37:08
Lisa
Like, yeah, there's a little bit more separation.

00:26:37:08 - 00:26:48:20
Seth
And she's like, and I'm okay. This is my mom speaking. I'm okay letting Ruth be a first grader instead of trying to push her to be the third grader. Oh yeah. Right. And so she treats.

00:26:48:21 - 00:26:50:01
Lisa
Treat them individually.

00:26:50:01 - 00:27:08:12
Seth
Absolutely. The generational play that's happening. Your mother. Yeah, right. Your mother, the biochemist. Right. Teaching your children, our mother, my mother, the farm girl. I love it, right. You know, who's always checking on cows and checking on rabbits.

00:27:08:15 - 00:27:10:16
Lisa
Yeah. It's such great knowledge there to.

00:27:10:16 - 00:27:21:23
Seth
To pass up every scene that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We just had a calf. We just had a cow calf. Right. And and having all of these things come in. It's really, it really is beautiful. Yeah.

00:27:22:00 - 00:27:23:22
Lisa
I've agreed.

00:27:24:00 - 00:27:43:09
Seth
Just. But but I just wanted to say that I just love what what your girls are experiencing. Not because of what they can do, but because of what they're allowed to think. I could be a surgeon now. Yeah, and I'm not just with. And I'm practicing my sutures. Hello.

00:27:43:11 - 00:27:57:19
Lisa
Not very much. Is that child like she. She wouldn't. She has the mindset. She's very quiet. And so most people don't even hear her talk. But she's like, the most, like, most self-confident person. You should be like, oh, of course I could do that. And if I was like, wait, what? She's like, of course I'll win this game.

00:27:57:19 - 00:28:12:06
Lisa
Of course I'll do this. I'm like, yeah, of course I could teach myself to play the piano, like all these things. Like we're like, well, you might need a little bit more help. She's like, no, I got it. And we're like, okay, self-confident child. So yeah, it's very much she's like, okay, if I want to do this, yeah, I'll teach myself how to do it.

00:28:12:06 - 00:28:13:20
Lisa
It's fine.

00:28:13:22 - 00:28:20:11
Seth
I was going to say, we need to get a webcam in there just to watch your your mother at work like that. That's that's something.

00:28:20:11 - 00:28:26:00
Lisa
Oh, yeah. No, she's she's fantastic. She's just that natural educator.

00:28:26:02 - 00:28:31:00
Lisa
She's just done it. Not only with us and them. She led schools for years.

00:28:31:00 - 00:28:32:00
Lisa
She was a headmaster.

00:28:32:00 - 00:28:34:05
Lisa
For schools when we lived in Eastern.

00:28:34:05 - 00:28:38:04
Lisa
Africa. And so she's just has a wealth.

00:28:38:04 - 00:29:02:04
Lisa
Of knowledge and just. And I think it's that patience and that compassion for teaching people that just learn different ways and just allowing them to grow the way that they need to, instead of trying to force them into very specific boxes, which I appreciate having three very different girls. I don't want them all to, like, be exactly the same, because that's just squandering just how unique they are.

00:29:02:04 - 00:29:09:00
Lisa
So I love seeing that fostered and seeing them grow as individuals, and not just as a block of children doing the same thing.

00:29:09:01 - 00:29:09:18
Stephanie
Yes.

00:29:09:20 - 00:29:14:11
Seth
Well, this is amazing because we know you, but I feel like we like, you know.

00:29:14:12 - 00:29:16:11
Lisa
We don't always get the time to talk about things.

00:29:16:12 - 00:29:33:22
Seth
No, no, no doubt. So you've been working on a project for over a year? In the professional side, yes. And, and you, you're background, from a from an education standpoint and training stand.

00:29:33:23 - 00:29:55:22
Lisa
Yeah. So I was in biology. I had a dual major in biology and chemistry, and then I jumped right into the work force. So I started even while I was in college, I was interning doing formulation development right after college. They hired me on and I was on the bench working on formulas for ten years. Kind of reached my pinnacle there and done what everything I wanted to accomplish then that's what led me out to Utah.

00:29:55:22 - 00:30:29:10
Lisa
So I had been in Chattanooga, Tennessee, moved out to Utah, and then kind of did more of a senior scientist role, did that for five years and loved that. But then it was time for the next challenge. And what I really wanted to do was to have an even more science based approach to product development. I wanted to really have the research behind budget, behind understanding how products work and being able to truly help people, because that's always been my motivator in this field, as I always wanted to create products that actually do something for someone and make life easier for them.

00:30:29:10 - 00:30:42:09
Lisa
Because I saw that really early on in my career. One of my daughters had really severe. My youngest one had severe eczema. Nothing would work like. She just was miserable. She was like two scratch and you couldn't tell her to stop scratching because she's too like.

00:30:42:09 - 00:30:43:07
Lisa
She like just.

00:30:43:07 - 00:31:00:16
Lisa
Keeps doing it. And so I created a product. It was a patented product. So it was I worked really hard and it was a really hard project. But then I like let her try it, and it's the only thing that's ever worked. Like she still uses it to this day. And from that moment on, and that was pretty early on in my career, I was like.

00:31:00:17 - 00:31:01:19
Lisa
I want to feel.

00:31:01:19 - 00:31:23:00
Lisa
This all the time. I want to have that connection with people using the products, and I want to make a difference that way, which is what led me to the industry I'm in right now, because I get to build relationships with the people that use my products. So I get to see how their lives are changed by them, hear their thoughts, get to know them and have yeah, that those conversations.

00:31:23:00 - 00:31:44:07
Lisa
And so that's what I love so much about my role now, is that I get to marry both the science and the research and everything I love from an academic side, and then all the relational pieces that I love and then marrying that, all with the desire to, like, change people's lives and make their lives easier so that they can accomplish whatever they want to accomplish.

00:31:44:07 - 00:32:04:15
Lisa
Because there's so many things that can be hurdles to people. Being able to accomplish their dreams. And health can be a very significant one. If you're not being able to move the way you want to move, then you're not going to get down and play with your grandchildren. If you're not able to move the one where you want to move, you're not going to go out and run and enjoy nature.

00:32:04:16 - 00:32:29:11
Lisa
If you're always feeling sick, then you're going to stay shut in and closeted and not be building all those relationships. And so health plays such a pinnacle role in holistic wellness beyond just physical, that if I can help make that easier through what I create and really working in and not in such a way that we're overriding what the body naturally does, because of the body's amazing.

00:32:29:11 - 00:32:52:03
Lisa
It has intricate and fascinating processes, but they slow down and they change and they get out of balance. And so it's so important to me to work within the framework of what the body already does, but just coming alongside it and making it better so that you're more in balance, so that no longer becomes a hurdle or an obstacle to you being able to do what you want to do.

00:32:52:04 - 00:32:53:17
Lisa
Then you have no more excuses.

00:32:53:17 - 00:32:57:17
Lisa
Like you feel great, your brain fogs clear.

00:32:57:17 - 00:33:05:00
Lisa
You're able to do everything you want, and then it's just your own motivation in to do it. But we've at least taken that hurdle out of the way.

00:33:05:02 - 00:33:07:19
Stephanie
It sounds like such a fun and rewarding career.

00:33:08:00 - 00:33:31:11
Lisa
It is great. I mean, to be completely honest, there are days where it is hard. There are days where we're in the midst of creating formulas, or it's like building what a clinical will look like, and it feels like it's problem after problem after problem, but then it all comes together. And so it's a challenge on the problem set, like solving stage, but then it all comes together and then you get to have the moment where it gets let out into the world.

00:33:31:11 - 00:33:36:17
Lisa
It's like a, like birthing a child, like you spent all this time working on it, you know, every.

00:33:36:17 - 00:33:38:17
Lisa
Intimate detail about it, and then it goes out in.

00:33:38:17 - 00:33:57:03
Lisa
The world and it's a little bit scary because you're like, I hope it's well received. But then when you start seeing it be well received and then you start hearing the stories, there's nothing more rewarding than hearing that. I mean, that's one of the things I've loved since I've started this job is just the conversation in the stories.

00:33:57:03 - 00:34:15:16
Lisa
Because if I didn't already believe in the work that I was doing from a science perspective, that we've kind of crossed all the T's and dotted all the I's to make sure that we're doing what we're supposed to do. We understand how things work. Hearing those stories solidify for me, because there's a difference between an academic knowledge of how a product works.

00:34:15:22 - 00:34:36:13
Lisa
That's satisfying to know how it works. But if it doesn't actually impact someone's life and change something that in a way that they can experience, then you've not accomplished your goal. You've only gone halfway there. And so you need to have both of those combined to be able to really have something that's successful. And so that's the the challenge.

00:34:36:17 - 00:34:40:20
Lisa
But also the exciting part of being able to do this kind of role.

00:34:40:22 - 00:34:42:16
Stephanie
Yeah, it makes the reward that much sweeter.

00:34:42:16 - 00:34:52:06
Lisa
Oh yes. Oh yes. And it gets exciting. Yes. And like you said it's coming up right now. So we're in that mode right now of the craziness and the like.

00:34:52:08 - 00:35:03:08
Lisa
Everything's happening all at once. But then knowing that the reward is so close and so sweet and getting to share very soon everything we've been kind of having to keep under wraps for over a year.

00:35:03:10 - 00:35:17:21
Lisa
That's the secrecy of the job. It's always hard because I don't know, as people always ask, people always ask. And I'm like, I was like, I can't tell you yet. Oh, I'll probably just wait a little bit longer. I'll tell you more, and then I'll tell you more than you want to know at that point. But like, you just gotta give you a little patience.

00:35:18:01 - 00:35:28:23
Stephanie
Well, for me, like, I love science. Yeah, that's always been a subject that I've been into. And so any time, you know, the scientists come up and talk about it, I'm like, okay, I'm ready to listen.

00:35:28:23 - 00:35:41:06
Lisa
You know, you're my favorite people. Yeah, there are some people that don't care as much. And I was like, no, you're not. No. I'm like, I'm so glad you're here. But I was like, I really am so glad you are here. But I was talking to you like.

00:35:41:08 - 00:35:42:08
Seth
I love science.

00:35:42:12 - 00:35:57:10
Lisa
But I was like, it's the ones, but I can I can see the eyes light up. I was like, we're going to be best friends. I was like, we're going to have conversations. After I get off stage, we're going to be having discussions. They're going to build a relationship. It's going to be me. It's like we have this like thing we're going to bond over.

00:35:57:10 - 00:35:58:10
Lisa
Yeah.

00:35:58:12 - 00:36:14:20
Seth
Yeah. So is there a for this project you've been working on for over a year. And that's actually why we actually said, let's do this episode. So we're going to dive in. But is there a codename for this project. And like because I know that.

00:36:14:22 - 00:36:18:19
Lisa
Yeah we've not done a code name specifically for this one. It's just like then.

00:36:18:21 - 00:36:20:19
Seth
We will cut your tongue out if you do.

00:36:20:20 - 00:36:24:18
Lisa
Has been some of that. I definitely have a policy of like wiping.

00:36:24:18 - 00:36:43:03
Lisa
Down the board every day when I leave from work and everything's locked up, it's pretty, pretty solid. When I video things in my office, I make it look around to make sure there's nothing incriminating that's out. It's a little bit, but like being a spy or like having to hide all the incriminating things.

00:36:43:05 - 00:37:10:05
Seth
But you're not a white lab coat. You're not solely. Yeah, a white lab coat. And I think people are going to appreciate this story about your daughter, like, like, foundational to what you're doing in the research world and the and the development world. It's not simply about formulas and products and ingredients.

00:37:10:09 - 00:37:11:05
Lisa
Yeah.

00:37:11:07 - 00:37:16:21
Seth
You've got this foundational like, it's kind of like your origins. I want to say like the origin story.

00:37:17:00 - 00:37:35:23
Lisa
Well, it just shows how important it is to connect on a human level. And also like, once again, why I love this role is because I do build those relationships. And so there's that trust that forms over time. So that when I'm working on something, people know my work ethic. They know what my values are behind what I create, they know what I will not launch and what I will launch.

00:37:36:04 - 00:37:53:04
Lisa
And so there's that trust that when something does come to market, that it's the right thing. And I've really loved seeing that grow is my relationship with people in this industry has really grown the last couple of years because they've gotten to know me and I've gotten to know them and they're like, okay, we know what to expect with her now, because when you.

00:37:53:04 - 00:38:04:09
Lisa
First start a new role, people are always a little bit skeptical. They're like, I had someone be like, you don't quite look like you're sciency enough. And I was like, I don't, I don't know if that's a compliment or.

00:38:04:11 - 00:38:06:12
Seth
Whatever you need. I'm a real person.

00:38:06:16 - 00:38:15:00
Lisa
Like I have multiple I can speak lots about different things. I have a whole person and this was part of it. But yeah, as time has.

00:38:15:00 - 00:38:39:17
Lisa
Built, then people understand that. Like I said, that trust is built. So then when we do get ready to launch something, everyone's just like, oh yeah, we don't even know need to know anything about what it is. We just know that when it comes out, it will be exactly what we need. And that's really special to me, because then it's then people connecting with me and my team beyond just a professional level and just like our work, but also our character as well.

00:38:39:17 - 00:38:42:22
Lisa
And as people.

00:38:43:00 - 00:39:04:12
Seth
So one of the hottest things in the world of, health right now. Yeah, one of the like, I don't know how many things are hotter than this right now or more prevalent. And I'm going to we're going to throw it out here and let's just let's put this let's let's get hormonal here. Let's talk about this hormone.

00:39:04:14 - 00:39:08:05
Seth
And this is a women's podcast. But many.

00:39:08:05 - 00:39:09:03
Stephanie
Of you know, Men of.

00:39:09:03 - 00:39:10:05
Seth
Madness.

00:39:10:07 - 00:39:12:01
Lisa
And then also have this hormone.

00:39:12:01 - 00:39:14:05
Seth
As well suitable.

00:39:14:08 - 00:39:15:01
Lisa
To everybody.

00:39:15:01 - 00:39:17:13
Seth
I'm sorry. Men have hormones too. Yes.

00:39:17:14 - 00:39:20:13
Lisa
Yeah. That wouldn't work if they did this best.

00:39:20:13 - 00:39:24:17
Seth
Darn tree. That's not true. Geez. Lp1.

00:39:24:17 - 00:39:26:02
Lisa
Yes.

00:39:26:04 - 00:39:33:04
Seth
GLP one is it? I'm going to give it to staff. I'm going to let you start it. But that's what we're gonna talk about GLP one. Let's dive in.

00:39:33:04 - 00:39:37:23
Stephanie
Okay. So what is the simplest definition of GLP one okay.

00:39:38:01 - 00:40:08:00
Lisa
We've said a little bit of it. It's a hormone and it's produced. It's primarily in your gut. So it's in specialized cells that are in your lower GI tract that are called L cells. And so what GLP one does, it's actually connected to quite a few processes, but very specifically to your insulin response and blood sugar. And that's kind of the ultimate response that people see when their GLP one levels are imbalance is balanced blood sugar because they feel it in energy.

00:40:08:00 - 00:40:35:06
Lisa
Because if you're balanced, your blood sugars balanced, you have that energy. They see it in cravings because if your blood sugar is not balanced and you're having those spikes, you're going to be looking for something to bring you back into balance or something sweet or something you're craving that you're going to want to eat. And GLP one also influences how food moves through your digestive system, so it actually will slow it down if it's in the to the right levels, when it's balanced so that you stay fuller longer.

00:40:35:06 - 00:40:52:18
Lisa
So the right appropriate amount. So when it's in perfectly imbalance, food becomes fuel. It becomes something that's not constantly on your mind. And it's all working through that mechanism of action through your insulin response. Balancing blood sugar.

00:40:52:20 - 00:40:56:01
Stephanie
I'm excited to try this because that's something that like, I'm freaking.

00:40:56:02 - 00:40:59:09
Seth
You are trying it. You have GLP one in your gut, right?

00:40:59:11 - 00:41:15:14
Stephanie
I frequently like, especially when we travel and have like business conventions or anything like that. Seth is always making comments about how many snacks I have, and I'm like, but I have to because my blood sugar will drop and I'll feel it and I'll be shaky. And, you know, then you.

00:41:15:14 - 00:41:21:10
Lisa
Need something to quickly bring it back into balance. But it usually ends up being something pretty sweet and.

00:41:21:12 - 00:41:22:09
Seth
Or salt or.

00:41:22:12 - 00:41:23:16
Stephanie
Yeah, that's healthy.

00:41:23:18 - 00:41:45:14
Lisa
And then you can go overboard on that too. I remember when I so we have a lot of diabetes in my family, a lot of type one and some type two on my mother's side. And when I was in, I think it was junior high or maybe a little younger than maybe seventh grade. I played volleyball and I was at a tournament, and they were trying to pump me up and give me energy, and they kept giving me orange juice and orange.

00:41:45:14 - 00:41:54:14
Lisa
Juice and orange juice and cup after orange juice, cup after cup. And I almost passed out from all the sugar because I had that spike and that crash just because of.

00:41:54:18 - 00:41:57:01
Lisa
It, especially because that ran in my family.

00:41:57:01 - 00:42:00:17
Lisa
And so you can just see the power of like.

00:42:00:19 - 00:42:05:02
Lisa
Like a little bit could be good, but then too much can be bad. And it's all about balance.

00:42:05:02 - 00:42:19:10
Stephanie
Yes, yes it is. And that's why I'm constantly carrying snacks wherever we go, just in case I need something because I you know, my blood sugars up and down. Yeah. Frequently where he could go, you know, skip a few meals and be like, oh, man, I'm hungry. I need some things.

00:42:19:15 - 00:42:19:20
Lisa
Yeah.

00:42:19:20 - 00:42:25:07
Lisa
Bodies work very differently between different individuals. So yeah, we all have our different processes.

00:42:25:07 - 00:42:28:07
Lisa
So it's so interesting to see how that is individualized.

00:42:28:08 - 00:42:37:20
Seth
When you talk about balance. The only thing I'm trying to balance is how do I balance everything I brought for myself on the trip and everything she brought for her, for her cravings on the trip.

00:42:37:22 - 00:42:38:16
Lisa
I got from room.

00:42:38:16 - 00:42:45:22
Stephanie
For cravings. It's just because I know if I have something on me, I'm going to eat better. And so it's like, what can I taste?

00:42:45:23 - 00:43:04:11
Lisa
So you're trying to do the right things because yes, because if you then have that happen and you just have to grab something that's nearby, you're not always going to make the best choice because it's going to be what's there. So it's being aware of what can happen and then preparing yourself so you can make smart choices. Because there's nothing wrong with snacking, nothing wrong with fueling your body.

00:43:04:11 - 00:43:16:19
Lisa
It's just being very conscientious of what you are putting in your body. And when you have these other factors that can be kind of in the way of your judgment, and it makes like, I just need to get something in my body now.

00:43:16:20 - 00:43:18:06
Seth
What's in the mind? Well, then.

00:43:18:08 - 00:43:22:23
Stephanie
When you're traveling, it's much harder to find something that's going to be the best for your body. What is.

00:43:22:23 - 00:43:27:22
Lisa
It? Because it's going to be whatever's convenient. And it's also expensive too, if you're traveling. And so.

00:43:28:02 - 00:43:28:19
Stephanie
I'm very aware.

00:43:28:19 - 00:43:31:00
Lisa
Of exactly.

00:43:31:02 - 00:43:37:21
Lisa
And so it's very like planning is the best way to do it because then you can ensure you have the right fuel. Yes.

00:43:37:23 - 00:43:38:07
Lisa
When it's.

00:43:38:07 - 00:43:43:20
Stephanie
Needed. Yes. And I will say that you know, even though he likes to tease me and bring it up every time, I.

00:43:43:20 - 00:43:44:20
Seth
Love to tease her about.

00:43:44:20 - 00:43:45:08
Lisa
It. Oh yeah.

00:43:45:11 - 00:43:47:21
Stephanie
But then when he's eating it, he's like, oh, he's.

00:43:47:21 - 00:43:48:03
Lisa
Very.

00:43:48:03 - 00:43:50:17
Lisa
Appreciative of the snacks. Oh yeah. I'm like, yeah.

00:43:50:17 - 00:43:52:14
Stephanie
I think that's what you said last time.

00:43:52:16 - 00:43:54:19
Lisa
Exactly. Do you remember this?

00:43:54:21 - 00:44:13:03
Seth
She'll she'll do this. And I kid you not, I used to joke with her because because we would like we're all packed to go anywhere. And I mean, I'm talking about we're going. We're driving five miles to church, right? Who knows what could happen, or we're flying across the world.

00:44:13:05 - 00:44:15:08
Lisa
There's always going to be snacks. There's. It's a concept.

00:44:15:10 - 00:44:27:01
Seth
It used to be they used to be like, you know, the plastic grocery sacks. Okay. That often. Can you believe? Yes. We're still using plastic grocery sacks. It'd be like five plastic grocery.

00:44:27:01 - 00:44:28:08
Lisa
Sacks of just snacks.

00:44:28:08 - 00:44:29:17
Seth
Of just. Yeah. And I'm not.

00:44:29:17 - 00:44:31:20
Stephanie
Going to say all five would be snacks, but they're just.

00:44:31:20 - 00:44:49:01
Seth
All her stuff, right? Whatever she needs. And, like, stuff, like how many grocery sacks? This is not the luggage, folks. This is not the carry on. This is like everybody's ready to go out the door. And then my wife, the bag lady, the grocery bag lady.

00:44:49:03 - 00:44:49:19
Lisa
Has everything.

00:44:49:19 - 00:45:00:23
Seth
All these things. And I'm again like, we we aren't perfect, but we're conscientious like she. Yeah. Good quality, you know, jerks in there, you know, and there might be spring and summer.

00:45:01:04 - 00:45:01:19
Stephanie
Dried fruit.

00:45:01:19 - 00:45:08:06
Seth
You know, dried fruit. And there might be something crunchy, you know, there's gonna be something crunchy, and, you know, there's gonna be something sweet. You know, there's going to be something chocolate. Exactly.

00:45:08:08 - 00:45:10:08
Lisa
You need, like, a little. You never know.

00:45:10:08 - 00:45:11:04
Lisa
What you're going to want.

00:45:11:04 - 00:45:12:05
Seth
It's basically.

00:45:12:06 - 00:45:12:21
Lisa
Hard.

00:45:12:23 - 00:45:14:17
Seth
It's basically your mini mart.

00:45:14:21 - 00:45:16:01
Lisa
Yes.

00:45:16:03 - 00:45:21:10
Seth
That's already been backed up. Yes. Right. And I used to joke with her about it until like for everyone.

00:45:21:10 - 00:45:24:21
Stephanie
Because I know if I bring stuff. Oh, if I don't want to know what's up.

00:45:24:21 - 00:45:27:08
Lisa
Well, the minute you have kids too, I just it just is.

00:45:27:08 - 00:45:29:03
Lisa
Exponentially like.

00:45:29:05 - 00:45:29:22
Seth
Spinach I.

00:45:29:22 - 00:45:45:19
Lisa
Have. I learned really early with my youngest one when she was a toddler that we would struggle in the supermarket and she'd get ready like throw a tantrum. And I'm like, what is it? The root of this? Because I was like, she's overall a really good kid and didn't throw tantrums a lot. And I realized I was like, she's hungry.

00:45:46:00 - 00:45:53:13
Lisa
And if I just gave her a snack when we went into the like because it was the time where we were going, oh yeah, and we were skipping a snack for it. And I didn't even think about.

00:45:53:14 - 00:45:55:02
Seth
Putting the temptation.

00:45:55:02 - 00:45:57:23
Lisa
Right there. It's always like, give her a snack in the car. And she just.

00:45:57:23 - 00:46:18:01
Lisa
Would be the most pleasant little thing. And I was like, okay, this was like more than a her poor little body could handle at that point. It's so I, I was like, okay, let's, let's remove this. And then if it's still tantrums, like we can deal with that on a parental level. But I was like, let's, let's, let's make it easier for her to have self-control and not have to deal with like, unbalanced blood sugar.

00:46:18:01 - 00:46:22:01
Stephanie
Yes. To make the experience of shopping or whatever you're like, yeah, I'm so much better for traumatic.

00:46:22:03 - 00:46:26:14
Lisa
Oh, exactly. Girls like you're not. You need it as easy as possible.

00:46:26:14 - 00:46:34:11
Seth
My mom enforces caloric restriction and then takes me by the deli in the store. Right? Yeah, that is traumatic.

00:46:34:13 - 00:46:39:08
Stephanie
I will say I love Smith's grocery store because they have that little stand of fruit.

00:46:39:09 - 00:46:54:05
Lisa
You can get the fruit for kids. I love that too. When we first moved here, my girls were my oldest ones were six, my little one was five. And so that used to be perfect because they're still dealing with that now. They're a little bit older, so that's nice. But back then it was like a life saver.

00:46:54:05 - 00:47:00:17
Stephanie
It really is. It really is. I love it keeps them focused on something and fueling their body. And then I just get to focus on shopping.

00:47:00:19 - 00:47:01:16
Lisa
Very much so.

00:47:01:17 - 00:47:11:14
Seth
Yeah. So when we say GLP one, I think a lot of people and we're going to go here in a minute. We got a bunch of questions we're going to try to get to today. Yeah. Yeah. We're not going to be able to talk about bag shopping bags the whole time.

00:47:11:20 - 00:47:17:08
Stephanie
But I will say I have been not using grocery sacks as much because we have those fabric ones.

00:47:17:09 - 00:47:38:03
Seth
We can't work and now we have canvas. Yes. And I'm still trying to balance them. Like when we travel on four wheels. No kidding. Like this. We have a Mercedes sprinter van that we do a lot of travel in and she's got this. We got these big captain's chairs in the front of this, in the front of this van, and she has no foot room.

00:47:38:05 - 00:48:00:21
Seth
She has limited foot room. Yeah. Because of the bags. Oh, and which I'm cool with, which I'm not as cool with is the center area. There's a hallway. There's supposed to be like, we're in a van. Like it's an RV, right? Like you should be able to walk. It's like. It's like World War Two landmines. Because there are canvas bags everywhere.

00:48:00:21 - 00:48:06:20
Seth
Everywhere. Now, I can't do this on this too much because I am a beneficiary.

00:48:06:22 - 00:48:08:11
Lisa
Exactly. I've got to be great.

00:48:08:12 - 00:48:09:15
Seth
So I got to be careful.

00:48:09:17 - 00:48:16:02
Lisa
You just use tease on it. You just tease. But ultimately, you're like, down deep in my heart, you're like, I understand. Yeah.

00:48:16:04 - 00:48:25:17
Stephanie
Well. And one of them is usually full of stuff like that I'm going to need immediately or, you know, within a distance, like some books or, you know, yeah, it's like that. And then.

00:48:25:20 - 00:48:27:15
Lisa
If you saw my purse, you would like I same.

00:48:27:15 - 00:48:28:14
Lisa
Thing. I have like books and.

00:48:28:14 - 00:48:29:04
Lisa
All the things I.

00:48:29:05 - 00:48:34:06
Seth
Just buy seven purses. Lisa. Seven canvas purses on the floor.

00:48:34:06 - 00:48:38:03
Stephanie
We were totally exaggerating. 2 or 3 in math.

00:48:38:04 - 00:48:46:05
Seth
We talked about math. We're going to 6.5. Up is supposed to be rounded up to seven. And of conversation. Let's go to the next question. Oh my.

00:48:46:05 - 00:48:50:15
Stephanie
Goodness. So what is the role of GLP one in the body.

00:48:50:17 - 00:49:15:04
Lisa
Yeah. So it's going to actually have multiple roles. So it's really important in metabolism and then also appetite. We talked about that. It's important for signaling insulin to be produced which then reduces blood sugar. So it brings it into balance. And then it also is helping to regulate the movement of food through your digestive system so that your hungry when you need to be hungry and not hungry all the time as well.

00:49:15:06 - 00:49:42:03
Lisa
And so then it also actually helps the liver not make too much glucose as well. So it's involved in that entire system. So it's so much I think people associate it with very particular things. But it's such an essential hormone for health. And so I think it's really important to understand that as well. And then when levels are in balance, it's not only influencing this insulin system, it's been shown to have cardioprotective abilities.

00:49:42:03 - 00:50:13:20
Lisa
It's been shown to help with your liver health and your kidney health, your cognition and your brain health as well. It is because there's actually GLP one receptor sites where it binds, it has it has its activity in the hypothalamus. So in the brain. And so then that's part of how it's communicating back and forth. And so it has so many holistic health benefits that not having it have not having it imbalance makes such an impact on your health beyond just something specific like weight.

00:50:13:22 - 00:50:17:01
Seth
Because GLP what like if you say GLP one what something is there.

00:50:17:02 - 00:50:24:04
Lisa
Yeah they're thinking the drugs. Yeah. So because it's just everywhere right now you just see so much out in.

00:50:24:04 - 00:50:25:02
Lisa
The the.

00:50:25:02 - 00:50:56:03
Lisa
World right now you see celebrities using like different treatments to get skinny fast. You see just and I know it's also brought a lot of hope to people who've not had success in the past with any sort of traditional weight management program. And so and it's also helped a lot of diabetics as well, because that's actually why the drugs were originally created, was to help some of these diabetics who have so much trouble regulating everything within their system, to give them that balance as well.

00:50:56:03 - 00:51:07:21
Lisa
And then actually, weight loss was a side effect that people experienced from being on there because the GLP one levels were working balanced the way that they should be. And so yeah, no, it's it's everywhere right now. But it's a.

00:51:07:21 - 00:51:12:16
Seth
Craze. It's, it's it's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy to me how many crazy.

00:51:12:16 - 00:51:33:14
Lisa
But what the good side effect of that has been is that it's brought this hormone into light, because I think there's been other appetite hormones like leptin and ghrelin that have to do with satiety, hunger that people have known about. And they you've seen products about them for years and years and years. This is not been a target that people have talked about until it was targeted by the drug industry specifically for this.

00:51:33:15 - 00:51:58:13
Lisa
And now there's a lot of interest in understanding how the hormone works. And so that's a nice positive side effect is people are like, oh, so there's something in my body that is leading me to have when it's out of balance, to have these cravings or to be hungry. All the time to never be satiated. And so it's not just always willpower, because I think especially with weight, there's so much stigma.

00:51:58:13 - 00:52:13:06
Lisa
And we were talking about this before we hopped on here. If you talk to anyone, pretty much anyone, especially women have been touched by this as they've been growing up. They've had a family member kind of pinch that their belly fat that they have and be like.

00:52:13:06 - 00:52:15:11
Lisa
Oh, you're growing a lot.

00:52:15:13 - 00:52:36:21
Lisa
Or had someone comment on the size of their like how many, how much they have on their plate. And we've all and it's caused so much trauma and there's been so much emotion tied with it. And it's usually been tied to a lack of willpower. If you were better, if you would take control, it's a shame. It's shame you would be able to make better choices.

00:52:37:03 - 00:52:57:13
Lisa
But what people are understanding with GLP one in this education is that there's a biological component to it as well. And if we can go to the root and bring that back into balance, then that removes that hurdle from you making good decisions. And then it's not all about willpower. You're able to take back control and make those decisions.

00:52:57:15 - 00:53:16:07
Lisa
All the noise in your head that focuses around food, because I think we don't realize how much of our lives and how much of our brain power goes around food. I'm eating breakfast and thinking about what I'm going to eat for lunch. I'm eating lunch and worried about what I'm going to eat for dinner because I ate this lunch, I'm going to be eating out at a restaurant with friends.

00:53:16:07 - 00:53:44:01
Lisa
What can I eat there? It's so much of our brain power that and there's so much noise from it, but if you have this biological component brought back into balance, that noise quiets and then you realize how much more capacity you have to do. So many other things when you're bringing isn't so focused on just food, because then you can still enjoy food, but it's not your like your motivation for everything either.

00:53:44:01 - 00:53:45:19
Lisa
Positive or negative.

00:53:45:21 - 00:53:47:12
Seth
And so much negative, right? Where you can.

00:53:47:12 - 00:53:48:01
Lisa
Say oh, so.

00:53:48:01 - 00:53:53:02
Stephanie
Much negative going to say it's going to change my life. How often am I talking to you about food?

00:53:53:04 - 00:54:13:23
Seth
Well, partly. Partly it'll be it'll be interesting as we as we dive into GLP one education. Yeah. Which is what what we're doing here today is really bringing this hormone, just like you said, Lisa, into the conversation that people haven't known about. And of course, maybe they've heard of GLP one. It's it's amazing to me, literally, as we talk.

00:54:13:23 - 00:54:21:12
Lisa
To their body produces it. That's I've come across that so much in the last six months is people are like, wait, my body makes this? I thought it was just a drug.

00:54:21:13 - 00:54:23:14
Seth
I thought it was. I thought GLP one was the drug.

00:54:23:14 - 00:54:48:01
Lisa
Yes. And so because the way the drug's working is that it's actually a compound that mimics GLP one, your natural GLP one. So it can bind to the receptors and have that effect, but it actually has different characteristics to the natural GLP one that you would create normally in your L cells in your gut. And so it's just a very different approach.

00:54:48:01 - 00:55:14:17
Lisa
And so yeah, so it's not the actual natural GLP one that you have in your body. But yeah, you do produce it. And I think that's part of the education is no, this is a system that's out of balance. It's something that you can address through lots of different ways. And part of the education is just making sure that people are aware of what the different options are, because there are going to be some people who need like specific drugs and they work with their health care practitioners with that, and that's great.

00:55:14:17 - 00:55:33:12
Lisa
They have that relationship. That person knows their health really good, and they can have that conversation because we always want to make sure that whoever's you're going to for your health, you trust them, you have that relationship with them. And then you know, when they suggest something or you're like, okay, this is what I need, but there's plenty of people who want other options as well.

00:55:33:12 - 00:55:39:18
Lisa
And that's why it's so important to have the education so you can make that educated choice even in discussions with your doctor.

00:55:39:18 - 00:55:40:13
Seth
And if I don't need.

00:55:40:13 - 00:55:55:15
Lisa
Something exactly like what if it's a craze, then I mean, you might be like, well, do I, should I do this? And I think a lot of people have been on the fence of should I be on certain products because everyone's doing it? Would it help me lose that last stubborn 10 pounds that keeps me from being my best.

00:55:55:15 - 00:55:57:02
Lisa
Self, which is once again.

00:55:57:02 - 00:55:59:13
Lisa
That same conversation that we all end up in?

00:55:59:13 - 00:56:01:13
Seth
I can be my best self with that 10 pounds maybe.

00:56:01:13 - 00:56:03:09
Lisa
I know that's what you should be saying.

00:56:03:09 - 00:56:23:13
Seth
Like literally, right? I think that you're the CEO of your health and that one of the reasons that we're doing this episode today is because you and I called it a craze, and I don't I don't want to I don't want people to think that. I think it's a craze and a and a shallow fad. GLP one is essential.

00:56:23:15 - 00:56:50:06
Seth
Your GLP one hormone activity is essential to your health 100%. We were doing some reading and and and I just don't even know how this is. It makes me wonder what it's going to look like, what the market's going to look like as this changes currently in 2020 for the GLP one market. And when we say the GLP one market, what we're talking about is primarily the pharmaceuticals.

00:56:50:06 - 00:56:54:05
Lisa
Yeah, that's definitely what's like the big that's a giant right. Yeah.

00:56:54:08 - 00:57:16:21
Seth
And we're talking about think about all the pharmaceuticals in the world right now. Number one selling pharmaceutical at least it used to be Lipitor I believe. Right. For cholesterol. Yes. But the GLP one market is a small sliver within the pharmaceutical world. It will cross $40 billion this year. That's a big number is we've been in natural health for years.

00:57:16:21 - 00:57:44:06
Seth
And we start talking about these billions or 17 billion. We got a market now this market's 40 billion. But I was reading some information and this market, the GLP one market because I mean we're going to we'll talk about maybe generation and generation generation one generation two peptides. These pharmaceuticals which are on the market place right now in the marketplace right now they're developing generation three, etc., etc..

00:57:44:06 - 00:58:07:14
Seth
This is a big moneymaker, right, for the pharmaceutical industry. In the next handful of years, we're going from 40 billion to over a half trillion, over $500 billion. The if, if I if we're talking to our friends right now who know about GLP one and say, oh, yeah, I'm on this injectable, I'm on this product like, I can't believe it.

00:58:07:16 - 00:58:14:05
Seth
What's it going to be like when it's ten times 12 times bigger? I don't know, I don't know, it's.

00:58:14:06 - 00:58:16:15
Stephanie
Probably going to be more like what? You're not on it.

00:58:16:17 - 00:58:36:10
Lisa
Yeah very much so. You're you're not addressing it in some sort of way. Like why are you trying to address weight or any of these things through another way, like, what are you doing? Why are you old school like that and think it'll become the norm? I think I would say it will, but then, yeah, then it comes to like, how do we broaden the conversation and explain that there's just different approaches.

00:58:36:10 - 00:58:37:05
Lisa
Right.

00:58:37:07 - 00:58:41:11
Stephanie
Right. So how does GLP one secretion in the body change as we age.

00:58:41:13 - 00:59:04:02
Lisa
So with age what we see with a lot of different hormones and proteins and different things that our body creates is that as we age it tends to decrease, which is bad because the world that we live in stress and different things that will cause it to continue to decrease are increasing. So we have these kind of competing things happening.

00:59:04:04 - 00:59:19:12
Lisa
In addition to just age decreasing GLP one, you have diet will decrease it, stress will decrease it. If you do have gained more weight and have the more weight you have can also decrease it as well. So it becomes this like negative.

00:59:19:12 - 00:59:22:02
Seth
A lot of downward pressure on this.

00:59:22:04 - 00:59:43:22
Lisa
Exactly. To be able to push it out of balance. So that's you I think that's why so many people experience what they experience with their relationship with food, with cravings, with food, noise, feeling hungry all the time. It's because one of these categories will they'll they're going to fit in one of them. They're either aging cause we can't stop that.

00:59:44:00 - 00:59:59:22
Lisa
We're not going to be able to stop the stress in our lives, no matter how clean we eat, no matter how much time we take for self-care like we are human and we're going to face stress. And so there's always going to be these downward pressures on this hormone that will bring it out of balance.

01:00:00:00 - 01:00:04:06
Stephanie
So, where would menopause fit in with that? Does it fit?

01:00:04:11 - 01:00:34:18
Lisa
That's going to be adding another stressor to it. And a lot of times menopause comes with other shifting of hormones, which can then lead to some gaining of weight as well, which then is another downward force as well. And so making sure that everything's in balance, especially as a woman, as you're transitioning through all the different periods of your life, are so important because I think with health in general, we tend to see a lot of the things like what we think of as normal aging, normal progression of life.

01:00:34:20 - 01:00:59:10
Lisa
There's just a lot of things getting out of balance, and we think it's inevitable. Yeah, but really, if we were addressing the root of health throughout these different stages, we could help smooth all these transitions. It wouldn't be all all of a sudden jumping off of a cliff. And there's all these changes. It could be a smoother, more gradual, more natural progression because, I mean, you are going to age and things are going to shift and that's perfectly okay.

01:00:59:12 - 01:01:16:03
Lisa
Like as a woman, you're going to have different seasons of your life. But what we want to do is make sure that as you're progressing, you're able to still live the life that you want to. It doesn't become like we were talking about earlier. Another hurdle to keep you from being able to achieve what you're looking to achieve.

01:01:16:05 - 01:01:21:21
Lisa
And so if you're bringing things back into balance, it does smooth all of those transitions. And GLP one is part of that.

01:01:21:23 - 01:01:29:02
Stephanie
That's beautiful. So I'm guessing that autoimmune disease might also be on that list of stressors.

01:01:29:02 - 01:01:34:14
Lisa
All these different stressors. Yes. So they can all throw everything out of balance okay. Yeah.

01:01:34:15 - 01:01:50:12
Seth
Well like you said, we don't you don't want to have this off the cliff health moment. Correct. At the same time, you don't simply want the the I'm living in the dregs of my life because things are really hard. And I'm only in my 30s.

01:01:50:14 - 01:01:51:19
Lisa
Right?

01:01:51:21 - 01:02:16:19
Seth
Do we have any number? Well, and you talked about, lifestyle. I think one of the most powerful numbers that I've learned in the last decade is we talk a lot about genes. Yes. And then naturally, kind of learning, we talk about how our body's hormone levels, hormone secretion, gene activity can slow down over time. Yeah. There are things you can do about that.

01:02:17:01 - 01:02:17:17
Lisa
Very much so.

01:02:17:21 - 01:02:42:15
Seth
But 70% of what we experience as aging is lifestyle related. Right. If we're talking about the genes though Lisa and and we know that as you age as a 20 year old, you have higher GLP one hormone levels innately in your gut and brain. Then at 30 or at 40 or 50 do we have any numbers that we know of I haven't seen.

01:02:42:15 - 01:03:02:01
Lisa
Yeah. And I haven't seen any numbers either. I think since it's such an emerging field. Still, we're still trying to figure out exactly what that looks like. And they're trying to get large enough cohorts that they're trying to actually study what some of these baseline looked at, because we've seen with other like for example, collagen, we know that in your 20s, like we know exactly when it starts declining.

01:03:02:01 - 01:03:22:02
Lisa
And I think they're looking at the same things for GLP one. And just kind of seeing how that transitioned, because I think there are there are so many lifestyle factors that can skew it. It's not since it's not just age related. Since it is, we've seen increase in obesity in our country. Well, in the world, which that also throws it off as well.

01:03:22:02 - 01:03:24:08
Lisa
They're still trying to kind of sort out what all of those.

01:03:24:08 - 01:03:28:17
Seth
Factors may be. The number one fastest growing disease in the world. Diabetes.

01:03:28:17 - 01:03:30:19
Lisa
Well, exactly. And it's all it's being up to.

01:03:30:21 - 01:03:42:05
Seth
Type two diabetes. And we talk about and I'm just trying to piece this together. Yeah. So this hormone primarily in the gut although it's in the brain and their receptor sites and all.

01:03:42:05 - 01:03:45:07
Lisa
Throughout the body right throughout the body. And there's that.

01:03:45:09 - 01:03:53:04
Seth
As we age, there's the levels of these GLP one decreases the sensitivity of the receptors.

01:03:53:06 - 01:03:55:17
Lisa
Decreases number of receptors to.

01:03:55:20 - 01:03:58:14
Seth
And then we throw in lifestyle issues.

01:03:58:14 - 01:04:00:19
Lisa
Like it just compounds it.

01:04:00:21 - 01:04:04:20
Seth
Healthy gut like this stuff is in the gut. But what are we eating like.

01:04:05:02 - 01:04:05:13
Lisa
Oh very.

01:04:05:13 - 01:04:28:19
Seth
Much 70% ultra ultra processed foods. I think of, you know, I think about growing up and we had sugar, right? We had sugar, but primarily primarily the further the further we go back. We were eating and again, processed sugar like I grew up on CNN. I can sing the song Pure Cane Sugar. Yeah.

01:04:28:20 - 01:04:30:09
Stephanie
I didn't even know there was a song.

01:04:30:13 - 01:04:32:15
Seth
Yeah, pure.

01:04:32:17 - 01:04:33:08
Lisa
I've been learning.

01:04:33:08 - 01:04:58:12
Seth
So yeah, he Sweden by the sun. There was a song. That's amazing. Right? So I grew up kind of in. And my parents, our parents grew up in the. We had sugar, all right. And love honey and I and we. But we've moved from natural sugars to processed sugar. I'm a catch baby right to our kids right now.

01:04:58:12 - 01:05:12:17
Seth
And type two diabetes growing in younger populations. Well, look at the label. Right. And and I'm just trying to put this I'm trying to triangulate here and say, wait a second. This is a gut hormone primarily.

01:05:12:21 - 01:05:16:08
Lisa
Oh yeah. What you eat is so important, so critical.

01:05:16:10 - 01:05:40:18
Seth
This is a hormone that's so we're tied to gut health, gut flora, the gut microbiome, which has to do with processed right. Well, then where do we bring in gluten and celiac? Oh, wait a second. This is a sugar home. This is a hormone that is integral in insulin. Insulin resistance. Right. Exactly how sugar is processed. And I'm looking at my kids Juicy Juice, not our kids.

01:05:40:23 - 01:05:41:06
Seth
We don't.

01:05:41:06 - 01:05:42:05
Stephanie
Like, our kids don't like.

01:05:42:05 - 01:05:56:16
Seth
We don't drink, you see. Just. But number one ingredient high fructose corn sirup number three ingredient. And I'm just going to pull this out of that fructose corn sirup. Right. Yeah. Number five ingredient agave sirup.

01:05:56:16 - 01:05:58:04
Lisa
Like there's a lot of different.

01:05:58:04 - 01:06:06:08
Seth
We're just throwing and we're not throwing. It's not the kid from Hawaii that I grew up on, which was is not great, by the way, obviously, but we're at it.

01:06:06:12 - 01:06:07:10
Lisa
It's been a progression.

01:06:07:10 - 01:06:18:20
Seth
Yeah, it is a progression and it is it is not in it is not a progression that is heading in the right direction. It's not. Is this affecting GLP one? Oh gods.

01:06:18:20 - 01:06:45:03
Lisa
So much so. So because GLP one is primarily secreted from L cells that are down in your lower GI, so your colon so it's influenced a lot by the different bacteria that are part of your microbiome. So there are very specific organisms such as Aquaman Sia that if they are fed the right food, they produce what are called short chain fatty acids, which actually activate your L cells to produce GLP one.

01:06:45:05 - 01:07:11:03
Lisa
So if you do not have the right flora within your microbiome, in your gut where these L cells are, you're lowering your production that way. And what you eat does so much to influence that microbiome. I mean, we talk about fiber needs because a lot of what these bugs will eat are really good fiber. But it has to be specific resistant fiber because it has to get all the way down to your colon and not be digested by your stomach.

01:07:11:05 - 01:07:32:16
Lisa
And we don't have any of that in our diet. I mean, we maybe do a fraction, a 10th, 100th of what we need because we just it's not part of our diet. So we're not feeding our gut microbiome the right food to be able to influence our cells to produce GLP one. So not only are you having these natural slowing from other things, everything's becoming more sluggish.

01:07:32:18 - 01:08:03:12
Lisa
You also just have a microbiome that you're just nourishing the wrong way to create the wrong balance of microbes, microflora, so that you're not getting the activity that you need. So it's just multiple mechanisms. Why? Which is why it's so important to never look at just one simplest what seems like it's a very simplistic solution to something being out of balance, as whenever I approach a product or problem, I always look at like the body's complex.

01:08:03:12 - 01:08:21:21
Lisa
What are all the different factors that are coming in to bring this out of balance? I don't want to just address one. If you don't address the body holistically and you'd like, if you just approach like L cells without addressing the environment they're in, you're only getting part of the picture and you're not going to be able to bring things back into balance.

01:08:21:23 - 01:08:42:02
Lisa
And so as you're approaching some of these solutions that we have, that it's a little bit more of an artificial. One of the things that they're not touching is the gut microbiome. And if you're on a prescription and you're not changing your lifestyle, and there are some people who do change their lifestyle, they have wonderful physicians who come alongside them and help them make great changes.

01:08:42:04 - 01:08:50:02
Lisa
And that's wonderful. But if you just think of these injections or these products as just like a quick fix and you don't see.

01:08:50:03 - 01:08:51:05
Seth
Only.

01:08:51:06 - 01:08:51:09
Lisa
The.

01:08:51:11 - 01:08:52:10
Seth
Magic bullet, right?

01:08:52:11 - 01:09:13:17
Lisa
Magic bullet, then you're not being able to address all of the things that are influencing this hormone. And also the minute you get off the product, you've not changed anything in your life. So you're going to end up right back where you were before, just more frustrated because you did see the progress you could make, but you can't do it on your own.

01:09:13:17 - 01:09:23:23
Lisa
So then you once again, you think, oh, it's a lack of willpower. You don't go back to it being biology. You're like, oh, it was the shot that gave me willpower. And instead of.

01:09:24:04 - 01:09:24:18
Stephanie
The shame.

01:09:24:18 - 01:09:45:20
Lisa
It goes back to shame. And it's not still not the right message. It's not the message that I want my daughters growing up hearing. I don't want them hearing that like, you don't have enough self-control. You like. You need to take control. You need this to be able to give you control. Like instead of realizing that they need to bring their bodies into balance.

01:09:46:01 - 01:09:57:08
Lisa
Because if their bodies are working the way they're designed, then that doesn't even become an issue. Then they're able to make those healthy choices, and it becomes so much easier than if everything's out of balance.

01:09:57:08 - 01:10:18:07
Seth
So we work with women all around the world, who are interested in in being the CEO of their health. Right? They're they're searching and implementing, making these holistic health decisions. We asked them, hey, in preparation for this, we said, what are some of the questions? Yeah. So some of the questions were that you want to ask right about GLP one.

01:10:18:07 - 01:10:26:14
Seth
So a lot of these questions actually come from them. Here's one of them okay. So for us for a woman who's who who may be thin right.

01:10:26:14 - 01:10:27:13
Lisa
Oh yeah.

01:10:27:15 - 01:10:46:14
Seth
But has might experience bloating just naturally. Where does the GLP one hormone intersect with you know, they don't. She does. She's not obese, doesn't have diabetes, but she's got this bloating. Does that is there some potential role that GLP one is playing.

01:10:46:14 - 01:11:10:20
Lisa
So not specifically the actual hormone. But it goes back to what we were talking about earlier. The holistic the gut microbiome that's associated with creating the hormone in the correct levels with our diets being as as off balance as they are, we our microbiomes are out of balance. And when you're out of balance, you're bloated and you can feel it when you're not getting enough water, you're bloated, like when you're not doing these basic steps.

01:11:10:20 - 01:11:28:12
Lisa
So some of the things that you would address to be able to balance your GLP one levels would address the source of that. So it it's addressing gut health holistically all throughout your digestive system, including the colon where the GLP one is created.

01:11:28:14 - 01:11:49:02
Seth
Interesting. Last week we we interviewed doctor Michelle Jorgensen who is a a well, not a but a holistic full health, total health approach, dental professional and naturopath, natural method doctor and certified functional nutritional.

01:11:49:03 - 01:11:53:05
Lisa
And so she wears a hat. She does. Yeah. That's amazing.

01:11:53:05 - 01:12:06:02
Seth
And your comment about we often want to hyper focus on just one thing like, okay, GLP one, let's mimic the GLP one hormone in the body.

01:12:06:04 - 01:12:24:15
Lisa
Let's make it last longer because then I like the effects of it. So let's artificially make it last longer, but not thinking of if we're overriding something that's naturally occurring in our body, and we're making it in a way that's not natural. So it's supposed to last for a couple of minutes in your body, but now I'm making it last a week.

01:12:24:17 - 01:12:26:05
Seth
Like, because more is always better.

01:12:26:05 - 01:12:44:20
Lisa
Because more is always better. It's just it's not thinking about your health holistically. It's just trying to once again, it's going back to that quick fix mindset of, okay, I see this as a way. Let's extend it as far as we can, not thinking about the let's move the body in the natural processes because we're like, oh, well, my body doesn't know how to do stuff.

01:12:45:00 - 01:12:49:06
Lisa
I'm just going to go over its head and just make it work best, because I want to.

01:12:49:06 - 01:12:49:14
Seth
Force the.

01:12:49:15 - 01:13:14:17
Lisa
Weight as much as fast as possible, which is not always the best approach because that's not always sustainable. It causes you to lose muscle. It causes you to have other health issues. When you lose weight incredibly fast. And so if you're wanting to do it sustainably, you need to do it in a much more slow and steady and constant manner versus just let a car crash.

01:13:14:22 - 01:13:22:21
Lisa
But we once again, we always think more is better and quicker is better. And that's not the case always for health. It's the balance.

01:13:22:23 - 01:13:24:08
Seth
Right? The holistic approach. It's the.

01:13:24:08 - 01:13:24:19
Lisa
Holistic.

01:13:24:19 - 01:13:46:21
Seth
Approach. So what she was talking about, you're saying, oh, oftentimes one of the challenges in science and medicine actually is a hyper or specialization, right. Where actually dentists only focus on certain things. And gastro and ear, nose, throat focus on something. And actually there's a whole lot of things that they should be exchanging.

01:13:46:23 - 01:14:07:22
Lisa
So I've been listening to a book about this that's talking about and it's very much the same. It's talking about how your cells can either have good energy or bad energy. They're always going to have energy. And they're talking about how in the medical field, everyone has that hyper specialization. Like I only look at one specific thing in the throat, right.

01:14:08:01 - 01:14:32:06
Lisa
But and you only hear one aspect of the patient's health, you only look at it through one lens. But if you were looking at the person holistically, you would see maybe the root of what's going on is inflammation. Maybe it's this, maybe it's fat. And you would address a whole myriad of health issues instead of just that same one, because a lot of times it's just trying to solve symptoms instead of getting to the root of what's actually causing it.

01:14:32:08 - 01:14:48:10
Lisa
And it's just such a beautiful approach. When you do approach it holistically and you're looking at, okay, what's out of balance? What can I bring into balance versus how can I hide what's going on in my body? Because eventually it's going to pop back out and it's going to pop out even worse, and then you're in crisis mode.

01:14:48:10 - 01:15:09:10
Lisa
It's like falling off the cliff moment, which can impact so much more than just your health. It's your money, your finances, your relationships, your mental well-being. So many parts of who you are will go off the cliff at the same time. And so getting to the root, the root of the problem, keeps you from getting to that precipice where you're just going to jump right off.

01:15:09:10 - 01:15:11:02
Lisa
And during this crisis mode.

01:15:11:04 - 01:15:13:18
Stephanie
Do children naturally have GLP one in their system?

01:15:13:21 - 01:15:33:09
Lisa
Yeah. So in order to survive as a human, you need to have GLP one at the correct levels to be able to produce insulin and do all of these wonderful processes. But like many things in our bodies when we're younger, we've not faced a lot of stress. We've not aged a lot. Everything is a lot closer to ideal, and so everything's a lot more in balance.

01:15:33:09 - 01:15:36:06
Lisa
But you still may see it in certain things, like hangry.

01:15:36:06 - 01:15:40:04
Lisa
Children that are in the supermarket and they need a little bit of their.

01:15:40:04 - 01:15:51:16
Lisa
Snack. But I ideally like everything's much more in an ideal balance when you're a child. All right. But that all starts. Yeah. Like hit your 20 of them all starts kind of petering from there.

01:15:51:18 - 01:15:54:23
Seth
So we hear a lot in the marketplace about peptides. Yes. Right.

01:15:55:03 - 01:15:57:07
Lisa
And they're another buzzword right now.

01:15:57:08 - 01:15:57:19
Seth
They they.

01:15:57:19 - 01:16:00:17
Lisa
Are. It's so funny. It cracks me up. But it's okay.

01:16:00:21 - 01:16:12:02
Seth
Now the the GLP one agonists, the pharmaceutical approach right, that we're seeing in these diabetic drugs or weight loss drugs they're essentially peptides. Yeah.

01:16:12:04 - 01:16:16:09
Lisa
Yeah. They're peptide I mean because the actual hormone it's a peptide. It's a package that acts as a hormone.

01:16:16:09 - 01:16:19:13
Seth
So GLP one the hormone it is it's a peptides peptide.

01:16:19:13 - 01:16:35:13
Lisa
So it's a it's a supplementary approach. If you're going that route because you're something is depleted in your body and you're trying to replace it with what's missing. And so in this case it's a peptide GLP one. And you're trying to recruit you're trying to replace it with you can't replace it with the natural GLP ones you replace, because you.

01:16:35:13 - 01:16:36:12
Seth
Can't just take the.

01:16:36:12 - 01:16:51:07
Lisa
Whole because you can't because it's not going to have to have like the shelf life that you need in your body. And so you're doing this artificial version of it, but it's essentially supplementation. It's very similar to how we approach a lot of times like collagen in our body, I see it depleted. I want my skin to look amazing.

01:16:51:07 - 01:17:04:12
Lisa
I'm just going to add it back into my body. But with that approach you're not approaching, you're not going to the root of why it's slowed down in the in the first place. You're really just trying to override your body and be like, you're not doing this. So I'm going to give it to you versus you know how to do this.

01:17:04:12 - 01:17:07:08
Lisa
I'm going to remind you how to do this again.

01:17:07:10 - 01:17:15:02
Stephanie
When you supplement it and you override your body, does that cause your body to step back even more a lot?

01:17:15:02 - 01:17:34:17
Lisa
Yes, very much so. Because, one example that I use and it's nothing to do with inside the body, but it's actually a chapstick example that I always use is that if you have dry lips and you're always using chapstick, you know what you're telling your body to do. You don't need to produce anything moisturizing on your lips.

01:17:34:19 - 01:17:50:19
Lisa
All those ceramides that give keep your lips all nice and like the way exactly they're supposed to. That barrier. I'm giving it to it. So that's why people get addicted to chapstick is they're like, oh my, your body's like, okay, if you're going to give this to me eight times a day, then why do I even need to produce it?

01:17:50:19 - 01:18:09:14
Lisa
I'm going to divert my resources somewhere else. So it's the same with all of your processes. If you're and there's cases where you do need to override and because your body just can't get there. But for a lot of people like you can, you can kind of stimulate those systems and bring them up back into balance and kind of remind them that they don't need to be so sluggish.

01:18:09:14 - 01:18:17:15
Lisa
But yeah, they do try to step back a little bit more if it's being taken care of because, okay, you've got that taken care of. I'll go focus on something else instead.

01:18:17:17 - 01:18:21:16
Stephanie
Interesting. Yeah. Okay. I've only heard about that with, melatonin.

01:18:21:16 - 01:18:23:09
Lisa
So that. Yep. That that very.

01:18:23:09 - 01:18:31:08
Lisa
Much is one of those as well. Yeah. Because yeah your body's like okay. Like this is how we sleep now. I don't need to make this anymore.

01:18:31:08 - 01:18:37:00
Lisa
But then you forget about all of the precursors that lead to melatonin, like serotonin.

01:18:37:02 - 01:18:37:16
Lisa
And so you're.

01:18:37:16 - 01:18:57:09
Lisa
Missing out on that entire natural process that goes with your circadian rhythms and your daily rhythms, like day to night transition and just throws everything off. And that's why you have so much of that sluggishness and sleepiness and not being able to wake up in the morning when you do supplement in that way, because you're not going through that natural process and your body's not flexing that muscle.

01:18:57:11 - 01:19:13:12
Lisa
Got it. Yeah. So that's why I always love approaching it in this sort of manner, like going to the root and working with the process, because then you're not overriding your body. You're just saying, no, you can do it. I can help you do it. I'll stimulate you to do it a little bit better and bring it into balance.

01:19:13:12 - 01:19:20:21
Lisa
And then it kind of it's like stretching those muscles. It's remembering it's doing that muscle memory, and then it's more easily able to do it.

01:19:20:23 - 01:19:32:23
Seth
So we talk about about peptides. And I guess if I'm understanding correctly the peptides that are being used in the medications in this, in this field with the GLP one field are synthetic.

01:19:32:23 - 01:19:33:11
Lisa
Correct?

01:19:33:12 - 01:19:44:03
Seth
Okay. And then there are. So that's kind of like a medication approach. Then there is the kind of the supplementation approach which is I'm going to take peptides are there are there's.

01:19:44:03 - 01:20:11:05
Lisa
Really not at this point, like if I was thinking through this as I was looking through your questions, like, no one's really approaching it through a supplementation because it can't mimic the natural hormone unless they go the synthetic route. That's a drug. But there are products on the market right now that are like, if I'm a fiber product, that should stimulate GLP one and they'll just like slap GLP one on their label, but not actually research and prove that their product works that way, they're like, it's it.

01:20:11:07 - 01:20:32:16
Lisa
They can draw maybe some dots behind there. We've also seen people in the supplement space market, blood sugar products and that way because they're like, I mean, we know that it has this and green that's maybe been shown to help with blood sugar. Maybe it works through the GLP one mechanism slapped GLP one. And that's where it goes back to the craze that you were mentioning earlier, is that the market.

01:20:32:16 - 01:20:34:12
Lisa
Loves to.

01:20:34:14 - 01:20:57:14
Lisa
Grasp on to words that are going to be searched. I mean, that's the whole SEO strategy. And so if people are looking at GLP one, okay, I'm gonna slap that on the product that I already have. And that's actually most of the products you see on the market right now are just a new label slapped on a current product with no testing behind it, because like, they're like there's some sort of weak link between them or so and the other.

01:20:57:14 - 01:21:21:01
Lisa
There is another supplementation approach as well. You can go the probiotic supplement route where some of the bugs that produce that, the short chain fatty acids that stimulate GLP one or like acromion. Yeah. So there are some brands that go that approach as well. But there are limitations to that as well. Because when you are taking a probiotic, you have to ensure that it actually gets where you need it to go.

01:21:21:01 - 01:21:43:07
Lisa
And it's pretty far down in the digestive system. So it's hard to ensure that you're actually getting the efficacy that you're looking for. And then you have to once again show, does it actually influence GLP one. And we just don't see a lot of that. So they're trying to supplement parts of the process. But a lot of it's just yeah taking what they already have slapping a label on it so that people will it'll start out and it'll.

01:21:43:08 - 01:21:43:23
Seth
Catch his attention.

01:21:43:23 - 01:22:13:04
Lisa
And you'll see a product that's been on the market for five years, had no interest, and people have no interest in it. Throw GLP one on the label. It's sold out in five minutes, right? That's how powerful that word is right now. But I think with that brings a lot of responsibility, because if you are going to use the word, there is the responsible to ensure that you're actually addressing that and that you've done the right research and the right, you have the right proof that you actually are influencing that.

01:22:13:04 - 01:22:30:00
Lisa
Otherwise, I think you're being very irresponsible because there's a lot of tricky wordings as well. May may help. Support is one that I see with around GLP one. And I'm like, that's a lot of like words that are trying to soften a.

01:22:30:02 - 01:22:32:20
Seth
We've made it super soft, but all that really matters is that.

01:22:32:20 - 01:22:54:10
Lisa
It has to be. Exactly. And so that's why it's really important when you're looking to address this, that you make sure that whoever's approach you're taking is someone that you trust, how they do approach this, you know, that they are looking at doing it the right way, that they're using the right ingredients, that you trust, that they know what they're doing.

01:22:54:10 - 01:23:14:02
Lisa
And they'll approve it, because there are a lot of other ones that are just trying to jump on the trend. And it's dangerous because people will make like they'll be like, oh, I'm on this drug. I'ma switch to this, which is dangerous anyways. And you should never like if you're on the prescription drug and you see another option, don't just cut cold turkey from anything.

01:23:14:02 - 01:23:35:08
Lisa
Work with your physician. If you do want to pursue a more natural option and work through that. But it is dangerous because if someone's a diabetic and then they're like, ooh, GLP one over here, I'm gonna get on my drug and then I'm over here and it's not doing anything. And then I'm dealing with insulin issues and blood sugar issues, and it can cause significant health issues.

01:23:35:08 - 01:23:46:20
Lisa
So it is incredibly important that as you look at some of these other approaches, that there's trust behind the way they do it. And then also just never like get off your pharmaceuticals cold.

01:23:46:20 - 01:23:48:15
Lisa
Turkey, like, please don't do that.

01:23:48:17 - 01:24:05:02
Lisa
Especially if you have these artificially elevated levels in your body and it's floating around in your bloodstream like you do need to wean gently off of it and be gentle to your body so you don't have that precipice moment once again where you just experience these huge shifts in your health. You need to be gentle with your body.

01:24:05:02 - 01:24:07:13
Lisa
You can handle a lot, but we don't need to be as mean.

01:24:07:13 - 01:24:10:15
Lisa
To it as we typically are and force it to go.

01:24:10:15 - 01:24:15:01
Lisa
From these extremes. We need to be a little bit more thoughtful and how we approach our.

01:24:15:01 - 01:24:16:13
Stephanie
Health.

01:24:16:15 - 01:24:46:21
Seth
So beyond then, like currently, what the GLP one primary approach is medication. We're beyond kind of maybe this interesting area that people are calling supplementation. What what what what other options do we have. Yeah obviously good. You know, getting our gut and taking diet and sleep. But what what like what's another approach to health to healthy GLP one internally.

01:24:46:21 - 01:25:09:21
Lisa
Yeah exactly. There there is another way to approach it. I mean, we call there's a approach called activation. And that's the approach of getting to the root of the problem and work like I've been talking about the whole time. It's working with your body's natural processes to bring things into balance. And there are certain natural ingredients that will do it, but it has to be put together.

01:25:10:00 - 01:25:33:13
Lisa
And I use the word crafted in such a way that it will. You'll get the most bang for your buck. You'll actually get the levels to where you need us, that you can experience the change that you're looking for. And so there's not quite anything out there. I think more and more will come out, especially very shortly, because this field is just exploding so much.

01:25:33:15 - 01:26:05:10
Lisa
But I think that is the approach. And I actually know that's the approach that's going to attract a lot of people, because it's not a fake approach that's slapping a label on something. It's not approach that's overriding the body unless you need that. But it's for those everyday folks who've been very curious about GLP one. They're looking for some of the benefits, but they're looking for something that's not fighting against their body, that's working through their gut microbiome, that's directly activating their souls to produce GLP one.

01:26:05:10 - 01:26:09:11
Lisa
It's looking at beyond GLP one to some of the other hormones that are in the body.

01:26:09:11 - 01:26:09:18
Seth
The whole.

01:26:09:18 - 01:26:39:22
Lisa
System, the whole system, because you have the gut brain axis, that two way communication between your gut and your brain, I mean, it is incredible. I was just filming something yesterday for social, just about that specific topic where your gut can actually experience your emotions. So anger, happiness, fear, all of that you feel in your gut because of how like how they communicate and how tightly they're bond like binded together.

01:26:40:00 - 01:27:06:08
Lisa
And so you can't once again, just you can't just look at one solution. You can't just look at GLP one. You also need to be looking for those products that are addressing those other complementary hormones as well, because you can't just bring one thing back into balance and expect it to be perfect. You need to be looking holistically at that communication and bringing multiple things back into balance that you can yeah, get to that balance level.

01:27:06:10 - 01:27:07:19
Seth
But it is possible to.

01:27:07:20 - 01:27:08:05
Lisa
Very much.

01:27:08:07 - 01:27:14:07
Seth
Craft a natural approach so that your body will make its own GLP.

01:27:14:07 - 01:27:15:19
Lisa
One. Yes, very much so.

01:27:15:19 - 01:27:18:13
Seth
That's elevated levels exactly where you were last week.

01:27:18:13 - 01:27:48:20
Lisa
And but a difference though is that once again, it's your natural GLP one level. So you're not going to end up with this GLP one that is floating around your bloodstream lasting for a week. You're actually producing your normal GLP one that stays around when it's supposed to. And so a benefit of that approach is you don't end up with the same side effects, because a lot of things that happen with the drugs, the side effects are because of that duration of the peptide staying within your system.

01:27:48:22 - 01:28:06:13
Lisa
Everything's slowing down more than it should be. You're cutting your appetite so much that you're not eating, you're not changing lifestyle, so you're only eating junk and then your muscle mass is going down, which then causes issues with everything in your body. And so.

01:28:06:14 - 01:28:10:04
Stephanie
Yeah, yeah.

01:28:10:06 - 01:28:32:21
Lisa
So yeah, it is very possible to naturally address it. And that's been part of the beauty of GLP one becoming a hot topic is that like it turns a research eye to it. And then we say, okay, let's start looking through all these amazing natural compounds that we have available in the world. And let's see what works on this level, because you can go through you.

01:28:32:21 - 01:28:40:13
Lisa
We know the genes that are in the entire process, because there actually isn't a gene that encodes for GLP one. You're going to see some claims about that on the market.

01:28:40:13 - 01:28:42:04
Lisa
That's not actually true.

01:28:42:04 - 01:29:04:15
Lisa
There's not a gene that encodes for it. Because what GLP one is is it actually is. There's a larger peptide that's called glucagon. And it gets cut into smaller pieces by an enzyme. And one of those pieces is active GLP one which can then bind. So if you want to actually upregulate GLP one levels, you need to be looking at that precursor, the mothership.

01:29:04:16 - 01:29:22:12
Lisa
You need to look at the mothership. And then you need to look at the enzyme that's breaking it down. Because if you don't have enough of that, you're going to end up with a lot of pro glucagon in your system and not active GLP one. And so you have to look at it more holistically once again. But now that there's more focus, we understand mechanism of action.

01:29:22:14 - 01:29:44:08
Lisa
Then you can start looking at okay, what is that correct combination of natural ingredients that leads to optimal activation and that production and secretion of GLP one. Very much possible. And a very cool field to be in right now. That's and what I love is kind of what we talked about earlier is that it's become it's so much more than just weights.

01:29:44:10 - 01:30:05:08
Lisa
It's so much more it's health and many different aspects, which makes it even more of an interesting target for me because then it changes the conversation around it. It doesn't just become that you're we're focusing on your weight because that's like, that's what's going to solve everything. Yeah, it's very much that this is an essential thing for your health.

01:30:05:08 - 01:30:22:00
Lisa
So we bring it back into balance. Your health will improve and that will bring lots of things back to balance in your life, whatever you need. So it goes back to the people who maybe don't need to lose weight. Is there a reason why they need GLP one imbalance? Yes, because they need all of the health benefits of GLP one too.

01:30:22:02 - 01:30:31:11
Lisa
They also need the food noise gone from their lives as well, just because maybe they aren't gaining weight from the food doesn't mean that it's not a constant distraction for their lives as well.

01:30:31:12 - 01:30:36:08
Seth
Because their bodies have changed. Then you might be thin at 35 or 40 5 or 55.

01:30:36:09 - 01:30:36:17
Lisa
Things.

01:30:36:17 - 01:30:41:06
Seth
Shift, but your GLP one levels are what they were when you were 25.

01:30:41:07 - 01:30:59:03
Lisa
Other hormones are shifting, and so you're going to run into a time where if you've not, you're not making the right decisions. Then you're going to see that and feel that in your body. And so that's why it's so important for everyone to have this imbalance, because it is such a like an important piece of health.

01:30:59:05 - 01:31:05:23
Seth
So you talked about weight loss, specifically muscle. And I know one of the concerns. Yeah, it's muscle loss is muscle loss.

01:31:05:23 - 01:31:26:04
Lisa
And that's all from just what people are eating while they're on it. It's very practical. Your appetite is really reduced. And so whatever your whatever sounding good at all, you're just putting in your body. And you usually what's sounded good to your body, it's not what's best for your body. And usually it's not protein. And so people's protein intake is just like really plummeting.

01:31:26:06 - 01:31:40:18
Lisa
And so then you see that as they're losing weight, they're just losing the muscle mass because they're not being able to build muscle. They're not feeding their body correctly. And so there can be ways of using the drugs in and maintaining muscle mass if you're under the care of the right physician who looks.

01:31:40:18 - 01:31:41:16
Seth
At implementation.

01:31:41:16 - 01:31:56:06
Lisa
It's it's holistically and you need to make those lifestyle changes. But yeah, otherwise, I think for a lot of folks who think it's a quick fix, a magic button, a magic pill, they are like, they're not making these other lifestyle changes and I'll be an issue.

01:31:56:07 - 01:32:00:13
Stephanie
So how does GLP one help diabetics? Type one. Type two.

01:32:00:15 - 01:32:01:00
Lisa
Okay.

01:32:01:04 - 01:32:25:09
Lisa
So it's a little bit different for both. So for type one diabetics your body doesn't actually produce insulin. So there is a little bit of a limited ability of GLP one to function because he doesn't have that role. But it does. They have shown that it actually helps to still slow that gastric emptying so that food moving through your system so you can still have kind of that balancing of the blood sugar a little bit.

01:32:25:09 - 01:32:47:00
Lisa
And then you can have helping with satiety and cravings. So there is a benefit to having some GLP one there. But naturally it's a little bit it's roles a little bit shifted because of the insulin. But with type two I mean that's why the drugs were all created because there is still that insulin. It's a completely different mode of action.

01:32:47:01 - 01:33:08:08
Lisa
And so it is all about bringing that GLP one back into balance so that you can have the right production of insulin. So you can have the lowering of the blood sugar to bring everything back into balance. So there's an incredible role for GLP one. And that's why I became a therapeutic target for them. But yeah, for type one it's a little bit different just because of how your body is.

01:33:08:10 - 01:33:13:03
Lisa
But for type two that's yeah. Where did all the drug stemmed from. And then weight loss was.

01:33:13:03 - 01:33:14:18
Lisa
Just a side effect.

01:33:14:20 - 01:33:16:18
Seth
Of of course the side effects that.

01:33:16:20 - 01:33:19:00
Lisa
Everyone glommed on to which.

01:33:19:00 - 01:33:41:22
Lisa
Actually which was hard for a while because with the popularity of the drugs and just people's craze about them and people getting them who didn't have diabetes as their reason for getting it is that it became harder to get supply for people. And so there's been a lot more. There's been a rise in compounding pharmacies creating it, which doesn't exactly mimic the drugs out there.

01:33:41:22 - 01:33:53:02
Lisa
So it's not quite working through the same mechanism of action as well. So there's some of that rising in the world. But yeah. But for yeah, it was originally created type two diabetics to really help them with that.

01:33:53:02 - 01:34:06:08
Seth
But but if if I'm type one diabetic and of course I'm not producing insulin but that GLP but my as age related and lifestyle related my GLP one you're still seeing that hormone.

01:34:06:08 - 01:34:06:15
Lisa
Yes.

01:34:06:15 - 01:34:08:19
Seth
Because it's I still need the benefit in my house. You still.

01:34:08:19 - 01:34:23:16
Lisa
Need that. Yeah. You're still needing that crosstalk between your gut and your brain. And it's so important for that satiety signaling. So you're not feeling constantly hungry and driven and led by cravings. So it's important to have that balanced as well as you can. Yeah.

01:34:23:21 - 01:34:54:13
Seth
What do you think about children who I mean, because we were just seeing juvenile diabetes type two just I mean, it is it's a maybe I'd say epidemic. It is a it's really it has to be a massive concern for us. We are seeing I think if you look at the research, maybe all age category. Right. Increase in type two diabetes.

01:34:54:14 - 01:34:55:12
Lisa
Yeah.

01:34:55:14 - 01:35:13:04
Seth
But the lower we the lower we look at that age bracket. We have to be ultra concerned, for where it is now. But what that also means extrapolated well over their lifetime. And then the next generation.

01:35:13:05 - 01:35:39:14
Lisa
Because so much of it is driven by lifestyle like. And a lot of their lifestyle is not chosen by that. With that age, it's so much on the parents. And so that's what's very sad, is that in order for there to be actual change in these younger individuals, there is going to have to be lifestyle changes. There can't just be quick fixes for them because that it really is going to be diet and movement motivated.

01:35:39:14 - 01:35:58:02
Lisa
And if we don't fix those, then any sort of other solutions, it's just it's it can't be the only yeah, you just can't go that way. And because it will impact them for so long into their lives, if they don't have those habits early, it's just going to follow them for the rest of their lives as well. I think.

01:35:58:07 - 01:36:15:17
Lisa
I think there needs to be a wake up as far as what we're feeding our children, how we're talking to them about food, how we're educating them like we were talking earlier, that food, instead of it being like something that we use to help with our emotions or help us process stress, it needs to be something it's fueling us.

01:36:15:17 - 01:36:33:08
Lisa
We can still enjoy it, but it's something that allows us to do what we want to do. And so we just as parents, have to be incredibly careful in how we're raising our children and talking about food and then also the food that we're providing. And there can definitely be lots of other challenges, though, in the way though.

01:36:33:08 - 01:36:58:22
Lisa
I mean, it's so much easier to find cheap food that's not good for you. And so if you're having issues with money, it can be difficult to provide that. So it's just it's more that it's it's hard to just have a simple answer for it because it's so rampant and it it's influenced by so many factors, which you were talking about with the podcast, how you want to address just more than the health.

01:36:58:22 - 01:37:19:21
Lisa
It's also the finances and all these other pieces. So if you don't have all of these pieces and balance, then it does make it more difficult to be able to create this kind of lifestyle for your family, because in the world we live in, it can be really pricey to do it unless you're able to find a way to make it work, which I know there are ways to do it, but it's it's hard.

01:37:19:21 - 01:37:40:07
Lisa
And so you have to have the motivation to be able to do that. So yeah, for youngins it's starting with that lifestyle and we have to make that change. Otherwise we don't want to treat we don't want to teach them that anytime something goes wrong in their bodies that they just need a quick fix for it. They need to start looking at what's actually causing this.

01:37:40:07 - 01:38:01:05
Lisa
And I think it's when we train up our children that way that as they grow older, they're going to be much more careful about their health. And as they talk to different physicians, they're going to be they're going to move away from just symptom based treatments or just having one specialist that's taking care of one little area of their body and looking at someone who can look at them more holistically.

01:38:01:05 - 01:38:07:18
Lisa
But it all starts from what they're educated from, from the beginning. So I think it puts a lot of responsibility on us.

01:38:07:19 - 01:38:31:18
Seth
Absolutely. Well, two things come to mind. First is we talked about this last week with Doctor Michelle and that little flip in the sweat, that little the little meter in the body that that also is dealing with hunger. Not from a calorie standpoint, but from a nutritive filling standpoint. I'll call it a nutritive calorie right standpoint.

01:38:31:18 - 01:38:32:12
Lisa
Your body needs.

01:38:32:16 - 01:38:33:23
Seth
Absolutely.

01:38:34:01 - 01:38:37:04
Lisa
Yeah. Versus just hitting the exact calories you need to.

01:38:37:04 - 01:38:39:04
Stephanie
Function, like with Doritos, right?

01:38:39:05 - 01:38:55:05
Seth
Yeah. We did. We had a long conversation about this last week. And my and you know, the fact that that like, I'm, I'm part of, you know, day Doritos anonymous. But I'm still going to meetings. Yeah. Daily.

01:38:55:08 - 01:38:55:16
Lisa
It's,

01:38:55:21 - 01:39:26:09
Seth
Because probably just because you're never you're never gone. Cool. Ranch may always be a thing, but but I'm not. I haven't had a hit. I have I've I've been Doritos free for months. But we talked about that. Listen, if, if, if we will focus on the nutritive value as opposed to simply listen, you can't you can't eat to so many carrot sticks without getting full because there's nutrition.

01:39:26:11 - 01:39:51:11
Seth
You could eat an entire bag of Doritos and go for the next because it's not calorie. Simply it's there's no nutritive base that comes to the the, the conversation with family budgets. Listen, if will have some faith and change those approaches. Listen you can eat healthy and and live on a dime, right? I mean, you.

01:39:51:11 - 01:40:00:05
Lisa
Can just take being creative. And I think another thing that's important too is like not feeling like it just has to be like a carrot sticks or something like that. There's there's so.

01:40:00:09 - 01:40:02:06
Seth
Many celery sticks, like, I don't like celery.

01:40:02:10 - 01:40:03:12
Lisa
Youngest one loves celery.

01:40:03:12 - 01:40:05:13
Lisa
Sticks like cheese has. And we we've always.

01:40:05:13 - 01:40:07:00
Lisa
Been very confused by her.

01:40:07:02 - 01:40:08:22
Seth
Anomaly. Anomaly like.

01:40:08:23 - 01:40:09:03
Lisa
This.

01:40:09:05 - 01:40:14:18
Lisa
Anomaly. But I think making sure people are educated on how to make healthy food.

01:40:14:18 - 01:40:17:17
Lisa
That's really good because there's lots of things that are really.

01:40:17:17 - 01:40:46:13
Lisa
Good for you, that taste really good, and you not only are satisfied from an nutrition point of view, but also just from like the social point of view. You had a great meal with your family. You. It tasted great. You feel like you checked that box and now you can move on. You feel satisfied. And so I think that's important as well as making sure that is part of treating people holistically, that we also teach them how to cook that way and make those decisions, and how to.

01:40:46:13 - 01:40:47:02
Lisa
Do that on.

01:40:47:02 - 01:40:52:14
Lisa
A budget so that you can feed your family and still have something that you're proud of and that you're excited to eat, and that you're not.

01:40:52:14 - 01:40:54:15
Lisa
Dreading that it's not just.

01:40:54:17 - 01:41:26:19
Lisa
Being because, like, that's back to that 90s diet culture where everyone's eating yummy food, and then you have that poor girl in the corner eating her little, like, celery sticks or her carrot sticks because she can't get any calories. Like, I think it's flipping the perspective of that and being like, no, no, no, no. The person who's living a vibrant, healthy life is still able to eat all this amazing food, and they can still love it, but it's just changing what food they're cooking with some of the techniques that they're using, but it's just some education behind it.

01:41:26:19 - 01:41:32:00
Lisa
But it's a very big switch from how like I grew up when I like when I was a kid in the.

01:41:32:00 - 01:41:34:04
Lisa
90s, what I was taught.

01:41:34:06 - 01:41:47:01
Lisa
Like it was very much like, no, we restrict, we restrict, we restrict versus no, we. It's like we have a more of an abundance mindset where we are just we're glad that we have these things, but we're but we're still approaching it from fueling.

01:41:47:01 - 01:42:02:08
Stephanie
So that I think also, I've noticed as I've become better at what I'm eating, being more aware of it, my taste buds are changing too. Yes. To where, you know, he talks about Doritos and I'm literally cringing even just saying Doritos. Yeah, I used to love it's not.

01:42:02:08 - 01:42:03:09
Lisa
What your body's craving.

01:42:03:09 - 01:42:15:06
Stephanie
It's not. And so but I can tell, you know, when I do like, oh, you know, I see a little bag and I'll maybe take, you know, hey, can I have one chip? And then you're can. And I'm like, yeah, that actually was not satisfying at all. Like it used to be.

01:42:15:07 - 01:42:24:11
Seth
37 chemicals don't actually you know, those 37 chemicals. Sorry. It's probably more you know, are are not doing it for me. Right. Yeah.

01:42:24:12 - 01:42:41:01
Lisa
Exactly. Yeah. Well I think it shows how much of a mental game it is as well is because one of the things that GLP one's involved in is really that satisfaction center of the brain. So what it's telling you is that you eat something and you're like, oh, like it's a reward. And you're like, okay, that's good. Like we're we're we're good.

01:42:41:01 - 01:42:46:16
Lisa
We're satisfied, we're happy. And so it but it tells it with the right foods, not the, the foods that used.

01:42:46:16 - 01:42:47:14
Lisa
To do it.

01:42:47:16 - 01:42:48:08
Stephanie
Yes.

01:42:48:08 - 01:42:50:13
Lisa
Yeah. So it that more back into balance.

01:42:50:15 - 01:42:51:20
Stephanie
Yeah.

01:42:51:22 - 01:43:06:05
Seth
It's crazy how much of a connection you talk about the gut brain axis. Right. That serious communicate that that highway. Yes. That's going through. It's amazing how how much this conversation has so much to do with the mind.

01:43:06:07 - 01:43:06:17
Lisa
Oh yeah.

01:43:06:17 - 01:43:08:18
Seth
And also so much to do with the body.

01:43:08:18 - 01:43:16:08
Lisa
It's very much so because once again, it goes back to holistic person. If you're only addressing one thing, you're not addressing that root of it.

01:43:16:12 - 01:43:17:00
Lisa
Yeah.

01:43:17:00 - 01:43:20:18
Lisa
So you need to be looking at the whole person. Otherwise you're not doing the job right.

01:43:20:21 - 01:43:22:09
Stephanie

01:43:22:11 - 01:43:44:07
Seth
Let's talk about the long term concerns with muscle mass. Yeah. From that a lot of people are experiencing as a side effect, right from, from their, you know, from their, from the medications or whatnot. Like, what does that lead to, like, okay, great. I just lost too much muscle. But what does that mean future wise?

01:43:44:12 - 01:44:05:18
Lisa
Well, I mean, your muscle is so much of a frame and stability of you being able to move and function. We see that as some folks get older, they they naturally lose muscle mass, and then they become less mobile in combination with other things as well. They're not able to do the things that they're looking for. There's so many other muscles than just like my bicep or my tricep.

01:44:05:23 - 01:44:31:20
Lisa
There's muscles around the heart and all of these different important organs as well. And so for everything to move the way that it needs to move, it has to have muscles. And so you need to be fueling your body. If you're not, then everything's just going to weaken. Everything's not going to be working the way you think. Every single system, and you're not going to be able to function at the level you are when, like you were when you were in your 20s, you're going to be functioning like you're an 80 year old.

01:44:31:20 - 01:44:48:00
Lisa
When you're younger, you're not going to have that quality of life that you're desiring. You may think you like. Maybe you get that satisfaction, you think you look good. But I think even at that point, you don't still don't feel like you look good. Like, I don't think anyone ever gets to the point, really, a lot of times where they're like, I've done enough.

01:44:48:02 - 01:45:02:06
Lisa
Like there's always like, I could always be a little thinner. I could always be a little kid. It's like they say, you're never going to be too thin or too rich or any of those things, like, I can always be a little bit more, so they're never satisfied. So then you just keep going that way and then. Yeah.

01:45:02:07 - 01:45:29:06
Lisa
Because I mean, you see, with those who have eating disorders like anorexia, like when they're hospitalized, doctors won't even let them walk. And the reason for that is because their heart muscles have become so compromised that they could die from moving and stressing them too much. And so that's an extreme example. But it is the same example. Like as you're losing muscle mass is from caloric restriction.

01:45:29:08 - 01:45:55:10
Lisa
You're weakening everything. And so you have to have a much more sedentary lifestyle, which then leads to other issues. So you're not actually ending up breaking the cycle. You're feeding into the cycle more of poor health. I just think what we have to remember is when we see things like GLP one pop up, we need to be really cautious how fast we jump into what things that could be fads or trends, especially when they have to do with our health.

01:45:55:12 - 01:46:14:00
Lisa
There have been so many fads and trends over the years that have been so unhealthy for people, and have led to long term health issues, and so you do need to be a little bit skeptical. You need do need to ask, okay, for this health trend, how is it helping to support how my body should be working, or is it going completely against it?

01:46:14:02 - 01:46:38:03
Lisa
And if it's going completely against it, then you need to pause and really dig into it. Like we need to be a little bit more skeptical sometimes before we see a celebrity lose 40 pounds on a shot and then just jump to that. As our only solution, we need to make sure that as we make decisions for our health, that we're being smart about them.

01:46:38:03 - 01:46:49:06
Lisa
We're working with our health care practitioners and we're addressing the whole person. And so I think it's so easy to just jump to like, be like, I want the quick fix. Like we've been talking about the whole time.

01:46:49:06 - 01:46:51:02
Seth
Ignorant, be ignorant and.

01:46:51:05 - 01:47:11:19
Lisa
Exactly like just not have the right information. And just if you take a second, it's not going to hurt me to spend a week doing some research or talking to my doctor, or learning a little bit more about this before I put something in my body or do something to my body. As you have this body, like, you need to take care of it.

01:47:11:21 - 01:47:35:23
Lisa
You otherwise, like some harm can be reversible, but some can't. And so you just need to be cautious in what you're doing. So when as you see things pop up, think of okay, what's the root of this. What are they addressing? What's this drug or what's this product addressing. Is there a different way of approaching it and still getting the benefits versus just jumping on what may seem easier?

01:47:35:23 - 01:48:05:13
Lisa
Most popular at the time, but then also realizing that there's a place so we don't want to oh, we don't want to shame anyone who's on the drugs because they have their knee. That's why they were created. But we also want to make sure that there's healthy skepticism, and we're asking questions and that other options are available. So if you want to transition from something like more of an acute treatment to something more long term, that there's that knowledge in place that you can make those decisions about your health.

01:48:05:15 - 01:48:24:12
Lisa
You don't feel like there is only one answer. You know that there's other ways to do it, because it's only then where you feel like you can actually take control of your own health, instead of feeling like you're just going from like pill to pill to pill and never solving anything.

01:48:24:14 - 01:48:46:09
Stephanie
Well, I can say that after this conversation I'm really excited to get older. You know I've, I've seen a lot of people that are not healthy and have a lot of injuries and have a lot of struggles as they age. But then I've also seen, you know, people here and there, women especially, that have gone through menopause and are still working out and are still, you know, their vibrant, great health.

01:48:46:09 - 01:48:52:00
Stephanie
And I've always been like, okay, I got to figure out what she's doing. Exactly because I want to be like that when I'm her age, because.

01:48:52:00 - 01:49:03:02
Lisa
Then you have the wisdom that comes with age, the experiences that come with age, but then you're still able to live life, which is the ideal because we're all young and dumb in our 20s, we make the worst decisions because we have no.

01:49:03:02 - 01:49:03:17
Lisa
Experience.

01:49:03:17 - 01:49:04:14
Lisa
Like we have no.

01:49:04:14 - 01:49:15:11
Lisa
Frame of reference except what we've been taught. And we learn so much over the years. So you want to get to that point where you have all that knowledge you've gained and you can help other people. You could pass it on, and you still have the ability to be able to do that because you.

01:49:15:11 - 01:49:21:10
Lisa
Have the energy, the strength, the vitality, the vibrancy to be able to do that so well. No, it's the dream.

01:49:21:10 - 01:49:28:22
Stephanie
I feel like a lot of people don't like getting old because they lose so much of their health and who they are and what they used to do.

01:49:28:23 - 01:49:58:04
Lisa
Yes. So I've seen it happen to so many people, and it's very sad when that does happen, because then, yeah, it just isolates them and just limits, like their expression of their self, they kind of fade away instead of becoming even more bold as they get older because they're more confident in who they are because like, you know yourself more, you've grown as a person, you've matured, and you want to be able to influence others who are still learning and growing with that.

01:49:58:05 - 01:49:59:12
Lisa
So yeah, well.

01:49:59:12 - 01:50:03:17
Stephanie
I'm still being able to make memories and, and bonds, you know, with their children and grandchildren.

01:50:03:17 - 01:50:04:07
Lisa
And.

01:50:04:09 - 01:50:05:10
Stephanie
Hopefully great grandchildren.

01:50:05:10 - 01:50:06:19
Lisa
Exactly. All that family.

01:50:06:20 - 01:50:12:11
Stephanie
Yes. Being able to pass that, type of generational knowledge instead of.

01:50:12:15 - 01:50:43:13
Lisa
Exactly. Yeah. Breaking those cycles and creating new traditions instead of just falling back into what we've necessarily seen. So, I mean, in this case, like we all grew up in that diet culture, shame based, why aren't you better? Why aren't you thinner? That's the only way you're going to find success in the world. But now we have that chance to flip the narrative and say, like my worth is found elsewhere and I need to approach health.

01:50:43:15 - 01:50:57:07
Lisa
I need to focus on health versus just what people are seeing, how I feel, what I can do. Yeah. And so I think it's we have that opportunity. But a lot of it's just yeah, getting that information out there so people can make that decision.

01:50:57:09 - 01:51:06:21
Stephanie
I heard a quote once and I'm not even going to try and say it because I'll butcher it. But essentially I came with my worth to earth. I'm not trying to find it.

01:51:07:01 - 01:51:07:16
Lisa

01:51:07:17 - 01:51:09:07
Stephanie
I think is really important.

01:51:09:09 - 01:51:25:15
Lisa
Exactly. Because when you are looking for your sense of self everywhere, you're never going to be able to find it because everything else is always very fleeting and very will disappoint you. And so like you're just going to be disappointed if you go that route like Doritos.

01:51:25:17 - 01:51:26:08
Lisa
Like Doritos.

01:51:26:13 - 01:51:28:10
Seth
Going to go, they're just going to go there.

01:51:28:12 - 01:51:29:13
Stephanie
And so much.

01:51:29:13 - 01:51:30:02
Lisa
Yeah.

01:51:30:02 - 01:51:30:15
Lisa
No problem.

01:51:30:20 - 01:51:35:23
Seth
No. And cut. It's a wrap.

01:51:36:01 - 01:51:51:03
Stephanie
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