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Stephanie
Hi, I'm Stephanie.

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Seth
I'm Seth, and this is the Forever Young show. The most powerful force in this world is a woman who knows who she is, why? She is here, and what she wants to accomplish.

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Stephanie
And that's where self-care comes in. As a woman, it is my opportunity and my responsibility to take care of me.

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Seth
Self-care for your mind.

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Stephanie
Self-care for your body.

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Seth
Self-care for your money.

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Stephanie
Our mission is to serve women as they fulfill their irreplaceable roles and families. Society. Business. The fabric of humanity.

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Seth
So let's get this show on the road. Veda Leclerc is is is your bestie this week, right? We we work with women all over the world. This podcast, the Forever Young Show, is a cool is a nice warm breeze on a hot summer day. I've never. I've never explained it that way. I may never explain it again if I.

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Stephanie
Thought it was nice.

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Seth
Tell us ladies like, does that does that resonate with you? But it's like a, it's a, it's it's a conversation that you want to that you want to have in your car or, you know, on, on your phone with your headphones, not Bluetooth by the way, I hope you're not listening on Bluetooth.

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Stephanie
Okay, man.

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Seth
I that's that is a big thing that I've made a big step. I have made a big step. I just I did all the research on my own and I just decided I didn't need anybody's help. Okay. Stephanie really encouraged me to, get rid of Bluetooth. But anyway, this is a conversation for women, to be with best friends.

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Seth
New best friends. So we want to introduce you to our new friend, Veda. Veda. Leclerc. Veda, you're the you. Oh, you just moved to Florida, didn't you?

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Veda
I did.

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Seth
I was going to say I thought you were in the northeast, but did I have that wrong?

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Veda
I was in Maine.

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Seth
Okay.

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Veda
That's nice. Northeast Florida.

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Stephanie
Yeah, yeah. All right.

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Seth
I don't think you can get more north or more east than Maine and still ride and still.

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Veda
Be on the tippy top.

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Seth
So talk about a change in climate. How is that been, by the way?

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Veda
Yeah, there's pros and cons to it. Like it's really nice of just it's sunny every single day. It's so warm still wearing shorts and stuff. But I also kind of want to wear like a sweatshirt and sweatpants some days, but I haven't gotten the opportunity to do that. So pros and cons of it. But I'm definitely not missing back home where they're like bundled up already.

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Veda
And I'm like, now I'm all set with that.

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Seth
Yeah, well, you're the best friend we're going to introduce everyone to this week. And, if you want to find out or when you want to find out more information, connect with Veda, jump into the show notes. She actually has a free hormone guide. We're going to talk about that today. We kind of in the pre-show talk a little about hormones, but that has got an amazing story.

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Seth
She's doing an amazing work. And, we'll give her an official introduction. That'll. Clark is a passionate health care practitioner committed to guiding individuals. And I'm going to say primarily women. Right. Veda? Yeah, right. This is a show for women. Hopefully they'll keep me on.

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Stephanie
Through.

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Seth
Guiding women through their health, individual health struggles to discover their inner glow.

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Stephanie
After facing her own challenges, including Lyme disease, anxiety, depression and cystic acne, she deeply understands how difficult it can be to navigate health issues.

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Seth
She runs an incredible business, Wellness by Veda. She offers personalized coaching using a holistic, whole body approach.

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Stephanie
Veda empowers her clients to address symptoms often dismissed as normal, and is dedicated to helping them achieve true well-being.

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Seth
Bam!

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Stephanie
All right, drop the mic. Right.

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Seth
So we we were introduced to you, Veda, by, a mutual friend, collaborator Barbara Thompson, who produces the Studio Chat podcast out of Australia. And, we listened to your story and said, we got to have this girl on the show.

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Stephanie
Yes.

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Seth
Because this is this is right. This is up your alley. Our show is our show. And the women that we serve and that we hang with. And women, women who who text us and say, when are you releasing another episode? Like, I'm going through withdrawals, right?

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Stephanie

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Seth
Or even guys, I have to tell this story really quick. Or maybe I'll let you tell the story. Phlebotomist. Riley. Riley. Riley. By the way, this is a shout out to you. Yeah, I saw Riley yesterday when I was having my blood drive.

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Stephanie
Okay, so about six months ago, I went to have some blood lab work done, right? Some blood work. And, this gentleman, Riley helped us, and we got into good some into some good conversation and told him about our podcast. And he's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to check it out, which a lot of people say that. And, you know, some do, some don't.

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Stephanie
So six months later, last week, I went in to get my, bloodwork done again to see where the markers were. And, I saw Riley while I was waiting, and I was thinking, oh, man, I hope that, you know, he does my blood draw again. Well, he did it. And I was a little bummed.

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Seth
And he was. He was good, too. Oh, he was, he was, you know, pun intended. He was on point.

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Stephanie
He was really good. Anyway, so this this lady took me back and, started prepping to do my blood work, and all of a sudden, Riley pops in and was like, do you know who you're working with?

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Seth
Talking to the other phlebotomist?

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Stephanie
Yes. And I was like, what?

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Seth
Do you know who you're working?

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Stephanie
And, and it took me back a second, and he was like, you're working with one of the greatest podcasters out there. And he was like, do you remember me? I helped you, and I'm like, yes, Riley, I remember you. He was like, I helped you last time. I'm like, yes, I remember it was about six months ago.

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Stephanie
He's like, yeah, man, I love your podcast. It's so great. Anyways, it was so flattering. I'm like, all right, that's awesome. Even a man is, you know, enjoying this and and getting stuff from it. This is good.

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Seth
Well we need more women. We need more. We need more men who, as we say, men who know we need more. Men who love to champion the femininity and the the whole body ness of women right, in their roles in life. So, you know, that's women need to be women, and we need men who want to support women in that role.

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Seth
So anyway, it was awesome. She told me that story. I'm like, do you know who you're with? It was a big time podcaster like that. That's my that's my wife. That's my wife. So anyway, we need you, Veda. We needed you on the show. We heard your story. And I was I was just running through it myself.

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Seth
Because of the many women we work with, from a health and wellness standpoint around the world, tens of thousands, really. And the prevalence of autoimmune condition. Right. And many, many, many of the, the really deep and sometimes dark, sometimes hidden, sometimes taboo or kind of hush hushed or let's just medicate it type of health conditions, you know, an experiences that we have.

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Seth
You've had those, you've lived those and and you have a a wonderful holistic integrative approach to it. So, not only your own personal story, but how you're guiding women. So anyway, we're excited to have you on the show today.

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Veda
Yeah, I'm super excited.

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Stephanie
All right, Veda, can you share with us your personal journey towards better health and well-being and, just any key insights or turning points along the way?

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Veda
Yeah. So my journey has definitely been a long one, and it started at a young age. So I was in high school, and I started experiencing some weird skin rashes all over my face. And I went to the doctors. They suggested I go to the dermatologist. I went to the dermatologist. They suggested a better moisturizer. I did that.

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Veda
Nothing really helped. It didn't really do anything. The skin rashes were still there, but it wasn't causing any type of pain or really anything that made me want to dig deeper. So I kind of just ignored it. And a couple months after that, so is now December of that year. I fell extremely, extremely ill. I remember I just I kind of felt like a sore throat at first, and I encouraged my mom to bring me to urgent care because I was just not feeling right.

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Veda
It was late at night. She ran an urgent care and all I remember was I was sitting in a chair and the nurse was taking my blood pressure, and I just woke up to doctor screaming in my face, my knees over my head, saying, Vader, Vader, wake up, wake up! And now, ambulance bad was coming to pick me up.

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Veda
And I was like, what the heck is going on? Like, I just came here for sore throat. And supposedly my blood pressure, like, completely dropped. I was unconscious for over 30s. They didn't know what was wrong. So I went on the ambulance, got brought to the hospital, went to the E.R. they did tons of lab tests on me, tested me for everything you could think of.

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Veda
Everything was coming back as normal, normal? Normal. Everything looks good. I was extremely weak. I remember at the hospital, I'd gotten up to go to the bathroom, and I passed out in the bathroom stall because I was just so, so weak. And eventually they just like, I'm pretty sure they gave me some meds and like, told me is a virus is going to pass.

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Veda
So I went back home. I was pretty much bedridden for almost two weeks. I lost like 20 pounds. I had no appetite. I was crawling to the bathroom. I just absolutely fell like I was hit by a trough. Truly. And then I started to get my energy back. I returned back to school, return back to sports, all those things and the following year, two months later, in February, I fell extremely ill again.

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Veda
All the symptoms came back, except they honestly felt worse. I literally thought I was dying, like I felt horrible. I got tested for influenza, for mono, for strap. All the things got blood work done, everything kept coming back as normal and they kept telling me it's a virus, it'll pass. It's going around. You know, the things that they say, and go get a.

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Stephanie
Flu shot, right?

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Veda
Yeah. The thing that was different about this time was I started experiencing mental and emotional symptoms as well. I remember waking up in the middle of the night, like just having a panic attack. And I remember calling to my mom and she came in my room. She's like, what's going on? And I was like, I don't know what's going on.

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Veda
Like, I wasn't sad about anything. There was nothing, quote unquote bad happening in my life that would have triggered that. And that one panic attack turned into daily panic attacks. Like I couldn't go to school. If I did go to school, I'd end up leaving early because I would start crying in the middle of class. I couldn't go to the grocery store.

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Veda
I couldn't go to social events with my friends. I felt horrible, like I felt so depressed and I had no clue why I was depressed in the first place, which brought a lot of frustration because I was like, I don't even know how to fix this, and I don't even know what's causing it. I ended up getting caught on an antidepressant.

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Veda
I was seeking a counselor. And then I just started living like that truly, for quite some time. And my symptoms, my physical symptoms started to get worse and worse. So I wasn't necessarily bedridden, but I would sleep nine, ten, 11 hours. I wake up feeling like I didn't even sleep at all. I was super bloated. My skin was breaking out, my hair was falling out in clumps.

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Veda
I just had so many different symptoms on top of the mental ones and I kind of just sucked it off, honestly. Like it kind of became like my reality. And I just got used to it and eventually my hair was falling out so bad that my mom was like, worried. She was like, they could this be cancer? Like, there's something seriously wrong.

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Veda
You're falling out in clumps. And she was seeing a natural path at the time. Thankfully. And she's like, hey, we should probably get you an appointment with her. And I was like, okay, cool, let's do it. My natural path ran some bloodwork on me and there's a lot of imbalances on it. My white blood cell count was super duper tanked, and she's like, there's something wrong.

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Veda
And she did some like diet lifestyle supplement suggestions. I started to work on that. I wasn't perfect, but I started to integrate things in overly improve as much as she had hope. So a couple months later, I went back in, redid my bloodwork. Nothing overly shifted. So she's like, we're going to test you for Lyme disease. So, it is is now like August, I believe, of that year.

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Veda
And it was now the year of 2020. And I was now going into college. So it was the year of Covid, like I was going to a completely different state wearing on my arm for the first time. And I it was just like, honestly, I think two weeks into my freshman year at college and I get a call saying, you tested positive for line disease.

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Veda
And I had this like, my mom was freaking out, but I had this huge sense of relief because I was like, oh, my God, someone told me what was wrong. I have answers, there is a reason why I felt the way I felt and everything started to make sense. So I met with my doctor again, and because I had went undiagnosed for so long that I couldn't just do a quick round of antibiotics to kill it off, I had to completely change my lifestyle.

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Veda
She was like, if you want to get better. I did some herbs, but I also had to completely change my diet and lifestyle habits. And this was so hard for me because I was very unhealthy. Like the gym. I didn't know her were, eating healthy, didn't know what that was like, skipping breakfast, eating Dunkin Donuts every day like I did not care about my health at all.

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Veda
So it took me some time. Like it took me a lot of trial and error, slowly swapping things out. But eventually the more and more I did it, the better I started to feel, and that kind of motivated me to keep on going. So through that process, like now, today, I've completely healed myself from Lyme disease. And even though Lyme is something that's always going to be in your system, it's no longer active for me.

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Veda
And I've also overcome so many of my mental and physical battles. I'm no longer on an antidepressant. I was on a thyroid mat. I was on birth control. I'm no longer on any of those things. And I just created, I now have such a huge passion and love for holistic healing because I saw what it did for me.

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Veda
And now I do what I do because I want to help other woman who may be in the same situation of literally feeling like there's no hope, there's no light at the end of the tunnel, and to show them that there is light that will come out of that darkness. And I want to be that person for them, that kind of gives them that hope.

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Stephanie
When I have a kind of a similar story. When I was in eighth grade, I was diagnosed with Epstein-Barr virus. And so that's been something that, you know, I've had to learn more about and heal. And, it's pretty incredible because back then, I'm 41. So back then, you know, Epstein-Barr wasn't really talked about a whole lot.

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Stephanie
So the fact that they actually could pinpoint it and know what was happening when I went to get bloodwork is miraculous. You know, it's that's from God. But at the same time, they just said, well, this is just something you're going to have to live with, you know? So in eighth grade, it's like, oh, this is what life is going to be for the rest of my life.

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Stephanie
Like there's nothing I can do. You know, it's. And I can feel that devastation, you know, in your story. Because. Because I lived that, too. And I love that you're able to bring so much hope to so many women. And honestly, you know, girls. No, because I feel like it's such a huge thing right now.

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Stephanie
Autoimmune disease and Lyme disease and, you know, all kinds of things. So I just love, love your message. And I love that you're vulnerable and willing to share with others to help others heal because you know what it's like to to be in that, darkness.

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Veda
Right? Right. Yeah.

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Seth
So not every so people hear about Lyme disease and don't know fully what it is like. If you have Lyme disease, you know what it is. Right? And, and it I don't want to say it's uncommon, but because it's, there are a lot of people who suffer from Lyme disease. Right. And it's I feel like it's one of those conditions or it's one of those, those health, those health situations where it often kind of flies under the radar.

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Stephanie

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Seth
Right. I mean, just just like your story. Right. I mean, how many months was it or years.

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Veda
Yeah. It was two years, two and a half years before I got officially diagnosed.

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Stephanie
Wow.

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Seth
Similar to you know, people with fibromyalgia, other autoimmune conditions. It's sometimes because the Symptomology can be expressed in different ways for different people, right? A lot of misdiagnosis or non diagnosis.

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Stephanie
Well yeah. It's it's nicknames, a lot of the autoimmune and stuff is nicknamed silent diseases because you can have that. But they don't necessarily know what it is. It takes a lot to figure it out sometimes.

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Seth
So for those who don't know what Lyme disease is, but now that we are talking about it on the show, right, they're going to they're going to meet ten people who have been struggling with Lyme disease in the next three months. Right. That's how it works. Can you just give us the real high level, the high level definition or, causation of Lyme disease?

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Veda
Yeah. So Lyme disease is when you get bit by a tick, there has been some recent research so that showing that potentially mosquitoes can carry it as well, which is a little bit scary because like, like risky dogs are a lot more prevalent. But yeah, essentially it's carried by a tick. There's many different types of ticks out there.

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Veda
They're super duper small and they like, stick to you. So like even if you did find one on your body and you try to get it off like you have to, like, literally pull it off with like these clear things, and you often have to put it in a baggie and bring it to the hospital just to double check that it didn't infect you.

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Veda
Because Lyme is just like as you heard from my story, it takes your body down like it will literally destroy all your organs. It just attacks you, basically. And like you said, it's so misdiagnosed and there's so many people that do have it, but there's also so many people that have it that they, Jonathan, know they have it because one, they're doctors like me.

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Veda
They're never going to run that test. And they often only run that test when someone has a bull's eye rash or just like a big circle rash on a part of their body. But if you don't have that, they're not gonna suspect Lyme. And then also the line testing that they do is very different than the functional world of their line testing.

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Veda
So you literally might have Lyme like, my doctor told me that if I went to a Western medicine doctor, got tested for Lyme, they would have told me that my results were all negative. Even though they were positive, they just didn't fall in their range to be considered as Lyme disease. So there's so many people out there suffering from all of these symptoms, and just all these things are attacking their body that they think, oh, I'm just had to live like this forever.

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Veda
Like doctors can't figure it out. They start to identify themselves with it. But in reality it's something like Lyme disease.

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Seth
Interesting, interesting. Have any of you ladies this may be TMI, but have you ever found a tick on your body?

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Stephanie
No.

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Seth
So I grew up doing a lot of camping growing up, and I've got tick stories.

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Stephanie
I'm like, oh, I'm so.

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Seth
So I didn't need to talk about these, right? These little, these little black, tiny little ticks. Right? These bugs with this little tiny head, this kind of pointy head. And literally I, I would I, I remember I this happened to me several times, actually, you'd find a tick on your body right? Because we're out in the sagebrush, right?

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Seth
I mean, out camping here in Utah and listen like they're everywhere, right? Go go to the Midwest, you know, go to go to Missouri. Go to Illinois, like ticks or ever go to Maine, right? These little buggers are everywhere. But I get home, and, I have like this. I just have something on my neck, and it's like a pimple, you know?

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Seth
And I'm like, hey, you know, mom, can you look at that? And she's like, you have a tick, you know?

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Stephanie
How have I never heard the story? I didn't even know you had tick stories.

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Seth
Full disclosure, full disclosure. This is something that should have probably been disclosed prior to our marriage. You know, have you ever had any health concerns? And this is just kind of gone under. It was totally it this this. I didn't do it on purpose. Right? I just slipped my mind, how many times we would have been talking about ticks and Lyme disease anyway?

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Seth
Well, it is kind of funny that I've never mentioned it because I tell a lot of stories.

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Stephanie
You do, and we have mentioned Lyme disease and ticks. We've talked about it.

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Seth
I guess we have even.

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Stephanie
Like talked about, oh, should we get one of those tools? Because I know it can be a little tricky to get them out sometimes if they're burrowed in, you. So yeah. Yeah. Anyways go.

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Seth
Ahead. Well here it is. Like here we go. Thank thank you Veda, for being part of our our our couples therapy session here. So mom is the mom my mom and dad see that? I've got a tick. Literally kind of buried right here in the back of my neck. Kind of where the hair comes down, right? So you can't see it.

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Seth
They're black. Right? I've got dark hair. And, it was alive. It was alive. And what you don't want to do with a tick is just pull it out. Because if you pull it out, if you. Then you're just going to leave the head in there. And that's where the problems typically originate, right? Yeah. So there are a number of ways you can get out.

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Seth
Get them out. You know, you can go Google it right. And and try you can try to to suffocate them. Right. Or you can burn them out. So my, my dad literally went to the stove.

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Stephanie
Of course he did that.

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Seth
Because right before they went to the stove he got a fork and got one of the tines of the fork and put it on. You know, this was one of those old coil stoves, you know, the old stoves where you turn it on and the coil heats up, right. The little actual coil and so puts it on there gets that, I don't know, red hot or whatever.

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Seth
And then he comes back, you know, nearly branded me. Can you feel this heat here? And he just comes in and he touches it on that, on the backside of that of that, tick and that tick decided it is time to back out. All right, I'm out of here and just popped right out. Right. So another time, another time.

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Stephanie
My goodness.

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Seth
I was camping, got home, and I had this itch in my underarm and I'm like, why do I have a, you know, like, like acting like a pimple or something? Right? On my underarm. Well, went and looked and guess what? It was a tick. Had another tick. This one was dead. And it was probably because I hadn't used deodorant that day.

00;23;46;25 - 00;24;05;00
Seth
And so I literally just smoked the dude out, right? Just like put him out. And we had to go. We actually went down to the clinic, went to see our family practice doctor. He, gave me a little, local anesthetic and scalpel. Me had a scalpel. Me, you know, open it up and take him out. So there you have it.

00;24;05;05 - 00;24;12;00
Seth
We're discovering all kinds of things with each other, babe, here today, but, yeah, yeah, that's.

00;24;12;03 - 00;24;14;03
Stephanie
Doesn't sound fun.

00;24;14;06 - 00;24;22;02
Seth
Yeah, that wasn't that wasn't. And I guess I'm just thinking, wow, I, I'm grateful.

00;24;22;02 - 00;24;32;03
Stephanie
Like, I. Yeah, you know, you have really good health, so I'm shocked. Like, I'm floored to hear that you've had two ticks in you.

00;24;32;05 - 00;24;36;29
Seth
Tomorrow morning, I'm going to wake up with this big bullseye rash right on my forehead.

00;24;37;02 - 00;24;37;28
Stephanie
Okay?

00;24;38;00 - 00;24;56;04
Seth
You know, you know, you know how you can have underlying conditions, or you can have a virus, dormant in your body. Right? And you can have something that triggers it. Right. I just hope that this podcast isn't what triggers. Isn't what triggers that.

00;24;56;06 - 00;25;05;00
Stephanie
So how do you feel? Women can advocate for their own health and navigate the health care system.

00;25;05;02 - 00;25;28;21
Veda
I feel like number one is they have to educate themselves because I feel like a lot of women, well, more women today are starting to realize a little bit of the corruption of the health system. And they have just grown up in it, and they're realizing that they're so sick and they have all these symptoms going on, and their doctors just can't seem to help them.

00;25;28;24 - 00;25;54;00
Veda
But they might not be really like, they don't really have the courage, I guess, to do so, because they may not be fully educated on it. Like their doctor, they have their doctor. It's their authority. They're specialized in a certain subject, whatever it may be. So obviously you're going to look up to them and you're going to take their word over your arm or over what other people are saying.

00;25;54;05 - 00;26;18;19
Veda
And I think that this educating themselves and really walking into like, truly, what is big pharma suggesting? What are they talking about? What is the Western medicine promoting? Why is this world so sick? Yeah, we have such good quote unquote health care. Like they just personally like I believe that they just want you to be sick because that's how they profit.

00;26;18;20 - 00;26;27;21
Veda
They don't profit off of seducing you to eat healthier, to take a few supplements to whatever it may be like. They're not making money off of that.

00;26;27;22 - 00;26;28;11
Stephanie

00;26;28;11 - 00;26;53;08
Veda
So I recommend to woman is to truly be courageous. Like just because you may not have the same level of degree or education as that doesn't mean that what you're saying is invaluable or isn't worth it. Like you need to stand up for yourself because if you don't, you will continue to suffer and the doctors are basically just going to continue to walk over you and tell you things that you don't want to hear.

00;26;53;08 - 00;27;20;12
Veda
So just making sure that you do stand up, reaching out to other people who are in the functional wellness space that will kind of have your back because it can be scary. Like you're like, is this true? Is this not true? Like, what if it truly is me and it's all in my head? But when you start to talk to other people that are in more of the wellness space, it can really open your eyes and make you realize like, wow, this is a really burden health care system.

00;27;20;12 - 00;27;36;25
Veda
Like, I know a lot of my clients is they come to me and they're like, I'm eating healthy. I'm doing these things. My doctor said everything's normal. And then I kind of throw these all these, like, debunking things at them. And I'm like, well, no, you shouldn't be doing that. You shouldn't be doing. And that's not healthy. And their mind is blah.

00;27;36;25 - 00;27;51;15
Veda
And they're like, wait, what? But then they implement it and they start to feel better and the symptoms start to go away. So it's like further validates that this stuff works. So my main word is just to have the courage to do so and to really educate yourself.

00;27;51;19 - 00;28;18;06
Stephanie
Yeah, it can be really intimidating when you do start to wake up from, from, you know, big pharma and start to kind of push against the pricks, you know, when you're at the doctor's office and typically, you know, those doctors don't really like that, you know, because they're supposed to know more than you. And so when when you are discovering other things that, either they're not aware of or they don't like, it can be a challenge.

00;28;18;06 - 00;28;44;15
Stephanie
So it definitely takes courage to fight for your own health and to get that education. Also, I found that there's a lot of, social communities on Instagram, on Facebook where they do talk more holistically. You know, in case some people that are listening don't really have those friends or those people that they can reach out to, you know, there are some actually some of some good friends of mine right now.

00;28;44;17 - 00;28;56;27
Stephanie
I actually found through social media, who are more in alignment with more natural, more natural approaches. And it's really, really blessed me to have that.

00;28;56;29 - 00;29;02;19
Veda
Yeah. That's awesome. Community is everything, and especially when it comes to the health service side of things.

00;29;02;19 - 00;29;24;11
Stephanie
Yes. Well, and another thing that I think of when, when you're talking about that is like, look at how Covid was handled, right? Instead of telling you to go out and use nature to help with your immune system and and honestly with your emotions and everything there too, they also didn't suggest, oh, you need to eat better.

00;29;24;11 - 00;29;55;02
Stephanie
You need to exercise, you know, instead it's, well, let's put a mask on. Let's stay indoors. Let's not talk to other people. And honestly, I had an experience. I did, yeah. Get an injectable. I had an experience that really changed how I looked at some things during Covid. You know, suffering with autoimmune disease. At first, it really scared the heck out of me.

00;29;55;04 - 00;29;57;15
Stephanie
You know, all these things that there was. You remember that?

00;29;57;15 - 00;29;58;02
Seth
Oh, my.

00;29;58;02 - 00;30;00;29
Stephanie
Goodness. I was like, you can't do this. No, we can't do that. No.

00;30;00;29 - 00;30;02;27
Seth
And then I use you. It was a phobia.

00;30;02;29 - 00;30;23;06
Stephanie
It really was. And I think sometimes when you have autoimmune disease or things and then something this big happens, it's easy to go back to that fear. Because that's what I felt like they were feeding, was fear of getting sick and dying. And, you know, people did die. I don't want to take that away because because it did happen.

00;30;23;08 - 00;30;49;27
Stephanie
But I felt like it was to a level that really brought my fear out. And so I was paranoid, probably for a good two months, to be honest, until I was in one of those groups and somebody brought it up and they were saying, you know, they had their own autoimmune disease, and they were like, it would be selfish of me to tell my family that they can't do the things that they feel are best for their body because of me.

00;30;50;02 - 00;31;06;00
Stephanie
She's like, I need to do what I can do to help and protect myself. And, and come together on this and see what we can do to get together, but not go off of fear. And just the way that she had said, it really punched me in the gut and was like, am I living off of fear?

00;31;06;07 - 00;31;34;10
Stephanie
And then my dictating to my family, you know, well, this is best for me, so you can't do it, you know? And anyways, it really turned it around for me. And I started to question things and started to realize, that what I was doing wasn't healthy. I did get Covid and, thankfully, I had been been told by a couple of people that if you get Covid, do not lay on your back because it suppresses your lungs and it makes it harder for your lungs to, operate and to heal.

00;31;34;13 - 00;31;56;13
Stephanie
And so I know that really, really helped me. I didn't get that big deep cough in my chest. I did run a fever and stuff for for, I don't know what was it, six weeks? So my body was fighting it. Excuse me. But during that time, I quarantined away from my family because I knew that was something I could do to help keep my family healthy.

00;31;56;15 - 00;32;20;27
Stephanie
And it was so hard to not have physical touch or that connection with anybody, really. You know, my husband or my our older daughter would bring in some food for me, and that was about it for probably four weeks straight. And then finally, you know, my husband came in to bring me food, and then he I'm, I'm getting like a little emotional think about this.

00;32;20;27 - 00;32;44;05
Stephanie
But he came in and brought me some food and gave me a hug. And I just broke down sobbing because I didn't realize how much I needed that, that physical touch and that connection and how imperative it is for somebody's physical and mental health. And it really, really made me think more about all those people who were alone.

00;32;44;07 - 00;32;58;09
Stephanie
You know, whether the elderly in, you know, nursing homes or people that had to go to the hospital for procedures or for anything, it really hit me hard and realized how much we need connection. We need physical touch from those that we love.

00;32;58;11 - 00;33;32;27
Seth
Well, you are the CEO of your health. You are the CEO of your health. And the two things that are most dangerous to you is not Big Pharma. The Big Pharma is not the thing that is most dangerous to you. What is most dangerous to you is ignorance and fear. And if you combat those with education, some confidence, and some community, then you can make those decisions that will be most in alignment with what you you know, I think we're coming to it with what you desire.

00;33;32;27 - 00;33;58;01
Seth
We're coming to an age where, there is just an awakening, I feel, in the integrative functional health right community. At the same time, there is a big push going the other direction that, you know, based on symptoms, based on, a pharmaceutical answer. Right. And we were just in the hospital yesterday. I was doing blood draws because we do blood draws, you know, regularly.

00;33;58;01 - 00;34;16;18
Seth
Right? The six months ago. Did you know yesterday, last week do them again at the, you know, toward the beginning of the year, first quarter next year so we can create our own baselines so we can understand our own norms. Right. Because the body is so everybody's body's a little different. Right.

00;34;16;21 - 00;34;17;23
Stephanie

00;34;17;25 - 00;34;46;12
Seth
So the question you talked about debunking myths or debunking just bad info right. Should I call it fake info. What are what are the top three myths or just bad information or bad pieces of information that that you counsel women and and kind of change their perspective on that?

00;34;46;14 - 00;34;50;21
Veda
Yeah. I feel like there's so many, so many out there.

00;34;50;21 - 00;34;57;03
Seth
Okay. Let's not limited to three. Let's not limited to three. Let's just go. Let's just let's go on a rant. Let's go on a little rant here.

00;34;57;05 - 00;34;57;27
Stephanie
If we wanted.

00;34;57;27 - 00;35;24;18
Veda
To debunk all the myths, Revere all day, but, I guess I would say like my top ones that I continuously see woman of doing the opposite ways and kind of following the world. And what the world is saying is one fat, getting healthy fat. So many women, believe that that's make you fat. Fat cause heart disease, bats, race, cholesterol, bats do this, this, this.

00;35;24;24 - 00;35;44;17
Veda
And they just have a very negative view on fat. And I used to be the same way I use and frame my diet was cars. Like, that's pretty much it. And when I started to integrate more fats into my diet, I noticed that I didn't need to snack throughout the day. I did. I noticed I was more satiated when I got my hormones.

00;35;44;18 - 00;35;52;08
Veda
That's it. I just recently did a Dutch test and my hormones were really good. Like, not to brag, but they were really good girl.

00;35;52;10 - 00;35;56;09
Stephanie
And if you, And a huge.

00;35;56;12 - 00;36;14;26
Veda
And a huge, component of that I believe is truly my fat intake, like I that's in order to make hormones, you need cholesterol. And how do you get cholesterol? You get it from fats and making sure that you're getting adequate amounts of fats is really going to help you with healing. It's going to help you with satiation.

00;36;14;26 - 00;36;35;07
Veda
It's going to help you lose weight. It's going to help you with your hormones, your gut health, all the things. And so I really encourage women and men, whoever out there, to really stop fearing fats because they're really your best friends with the healthy fats. And that kind of goes into the second one that I hear a lot of people say is like, oh, like canola oil, vegetable oil.

00;36;35;07 - 00;36;43;09
Veda
That's good for me. Like it's good for my heart. How? That's organic. Like it's great, but no, no, it's not seed oil.

00;36;43;14 - 00;36;45;00
Stephanie

00;36;45;02 - 00;37;07;08
Veda
I hate seed oil. It's like they're just my enemy and they cause so much information. They are the root of heart disease. They're the root of disease. They cause so much stress on the body, and the world just promotes that stuff. Like you go to a restaurant, they're likely using canola, soybean, vegetable oil. You go to the grocery store like that's them.

00;37;07;09 - 00;37;36;06
Veda
Typically the oils that they have, that's the cheapest oils that they have. Like, that's what people on the news or like big pharma or whatever promoting, like all this stuff is good for you, but it's not it. It's really so bad. And another thing, two more I'm going to mention is one more is in terms of weight loss, a lot of women tend to think that going to the gym more and eating less equals success.

00;37;36;06 - 00;38;02;17
Veda
And, that cannot be farther from the truth, because especially as women, like, we have different phases of the month where our cycle, our bodies can handle stressors a lot differently. And if we're going to the gym five, six days a week, hitting intense cardio, intense lifting, that essentially is putting a huge stress on our body. And what stress does is it literally tells our body, like, hey, we're running from there.

00;38;02;17 - 00;38;20;25
Veda
We don't have time to lose weight right now. We don't have time to have a baby. We don't have time to help your digestive system. So all the systems shut down. You start gaining weight. Now, this creates this process in your mind. Oh. I cannot lose weight. I'm so frustrated. Why can't I do this? I'm so bad at this.

00;38;20;25 - 00;38;41;25
Veda
All these things, it starts creating this negative self-talk. So you go to the gym even harder now. You caught your calories even more. And it's just this continuous cycle when in reality, it's making you feel more miserable and take you further away from the goal. And then my last one is I'm a huge component on blood sugar management and blood sugar regulation.

00;38;41;27 - 00;39;04;21
Veda
Don't wait until you're diabetic or pre-diabetic to care about your blood sugar. You should start caring about that today, making sure that your meals are balanced, that you're not eating. I like to call them naked calves. Like you're not just eating a bowl of fruit or bread or crackers by itself, pairing it with a protein and fat to slow down that glucose by going on, I like to call them blood sugar balancing walks.

00;39;04;21 - 00;39;27;15
Veda
Like after you eat a meal, go walk for ten minutes. Move your body like whatever it may be, and that's going to help reduce the blood sugar spike. Because if our blood sugar is crazy, your hormones are going to be crazy. Your gut health can be crazy. You are basically shedding yourself up for disease down the road and making sure you're managing that from the get go, no matter how old you are.

00;39;27;20 - 00;39;47;20
Veda
Do it before the doctor has to give you the diagnosis. And even if you are going to doctors and you're getting your A-1 C check, you're getting your insulin check and they're saying, oh, it looks great. I don't know about that because their ranges are very different than functional ranges. So they might look at it and be like, oh, you're in the range.

00;39;47;23 - 00;40;03;20
Veda
No, you're in the range that they can't diagnose you yet. And if they can't diagnose you to them you're normal. Whereas if you look at it from a functional and know you may not be diagnosed yet, but you are very trending towards that way and we need to dive deeper into that.

00;40;03;23 - 00;40;05;07
Seth
Such great advice. I mean.

00;40;05;11 - 00;40;06;09
Stephanie
Yeah.

00;40;06;11 - 00;40;28;19
Seth
We could discuss this with blood sugar. We could discuss this with cholesterol, right? What used to be a healthy cholesterol level much higher than where we're doctors say, today. Right. And you know, what's one of the most at one times, it was Lipitor was the number one selling drug, I think, in the pharmaceutical world. Right. Because everything you've said, like I'm looking at saying like, check, check, check.

00;40;28;19 - 00;40;36;22
Seth
Okay. Yeah, we're all we're all on top of that ledger. Hey, we just ate. Let's go on a walk. Family. That's that's that's always Stephanie, right? Right.

00;40;36;24 - 00;40;37;11
Stephanie
Yeah.

00;40;37;13 - 00;40;58;28
Seth
Especially when we when we travel, we I think we really we really work on that. You know, we, we do a lot of travel and we just got off a three and a half week road trip, from Utah to Kansas City to Missouri to Texas to north Texas, central Texas, you know, west Texas, Arizona. And so we're sitting a lot and, you know, it's kind of a different environment.

00;40;58;28 - 00;41;32;20
Seth
So, yeah, blood sugar balancing walks after after you eat, you know, checking out the city. But one thing I want to talk about is this difference between living within, quote unquote, normal ranges where we can't be diagnosed and, and put on a treatment versus finding your own norms or norms that are accepted in the functional health world, in the integrative health world.

00;41;32;20 - 00;41;58;06
Seth
Right. Which may help promote longer health span right there. It's almost like there are two different goals of these these groups. Right? One is, well, we can't put you on this yet. Right? You're not so bad enough. You're not so bad. Yeah, that we can put you on. You know, whatever script it is, as opposed to what direction are you heading in?

00;41;58;06 - 00;42;03;11
Seth
Seth? Maybe you don't need five pieces of pie, right?

00;42;03;13 - 00;42;18;20
Stephanie
Well, I think not just the longevity of it, but the quality of life. Like, we should be doing something now so that the quality of life improves now, instead of waiting until, you know, okay, now we can do something. You know, there's always something you can do to improve.

00;42;18;22 - 00;42;48;25
Veda
Right? Right. Yeah. And I, I always like to tell people that every symptom that you have, whether how big or small, is a sign from your body that is asking for help. So when you go to the doctors and you do bloodwork and you're hit with, oh, everything looks great, everything looks normal, but you don't feel that way inside, don't just accept that and move on because that that what's going to happen is your symptoms are going to keep growing and growing and growing, and the longer you leave them unaddressed, it's literally brewing in your body.

00;42;48;25 - 00;43;10;16
Veda
It is brewing, brewing, brewing. And then next thing you know, you now have a disease that the doctor can go and diagnose you at, and they're going to look at it like, oh, you fell out of the range. Great. Here's a medication you're good to go. Whereas what I'm doing is I'm looking at it. Okay. You first off, our ranges are much, much shorter than Western medicine range.

00;43;10;16 - 00;43;27;02
Veda
So if you fall out of the range, whether it's super low, super high or you're trending high, trending low, we're looking at that. And if there's any sort of imbalance, we want to start working at it right now because I'm not there to diagnose you. I want to prevent that diagnosis from ever having to happen.

00;43;27;04 - 00;43;45;09
Stephanie
Amen. Amen. Preacher, to being, in my early 20s and not really knowing because I was I've always been a really thin girl, and I mean even more so then and so people always looked at me and were just like, oh, you're healthy. You don't need to do anything. You know? I would ask, hey, I really don't know how to work out.

00;43;45;09 - 00;44;05;24
Stephanie
Can you teach me or different things like that? Oh you're thin. You don't need to do that. And I'm just like, no, but I do. But I didn't really know anybody else to reach out to. And so, you know, it was frustrating because I felt like people just looked at me as healthy because I was skinny. And I'm like, there are a lot of unhealthy people walking around here that are skinny.

00;44;05;27 - 00;44;30;27
Stephanie
But I think it's, you know, something that Seth and I talked about just yesterday, actually was, learning to listen to your body and to know what feels right and, good and healthy to you. And that's one way that you can know how to advocate for yourself also, is, you know, you know your body better than a doctor or somebody else is going to.

00;44;30;29 - 00;44;34;21
Stephanie
So learning how to listen to your body when it's talking to you.

00;44;34;23 - 00;44;58;07
Veda
Yeah, yeah, I think that's one of the best things you can do is become in tune with your body. I think going through my health journey, I've been able to have the opportunity to know my body a lot better, become more in tune with that. And I like today I'm very observant. If I noticed that, like, if there's a stressful season in my life, like, I know, like intuitively I'm like, I know that.

00;44;58;14 - 00;45;19;26
Veda
And I'd say my digestion starts to slow down. So I do start to break out, say my I have a little bit more PMS next cycle, and I like I know because it's the stress on women and the season I'm under, but I know and able to take that. And rather than being frustrated and feeling like I took ten steps backwards and feel like I'm not moving in the right direction, it's like, no, our body is great.

00;45;19;26 - 00;45;39;01
Veda
It's able to adapt. Healing is not linear. So I just take that and I into with my body. I listen to it. So then I know in the next season of life, we need to focus more on deregulating our nervous system and calming it down and doing all those good things. But it's really hard to decipher that when you are in tune with your body.

00;45;39;03 - 00;45;42;18
Stephanie
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

00;45;42;20 - 00;45;47;29
Seth
If you're looking for an invitation to get in tune with your body, this is it.

00;45;48;02 - 00;45;57;15
Stephanie
Okay, so I do have a question for you. There's something else up. And I we're talking about, what are your thoughts on cold plunging?

00;45;57;18 - 00;46;17;19
Veda
That's a great question. So I have there's pros and cons, I think. I think cold plunging is really good, but I don't think everyone should be doing it. And the reason I say that is because cold blundering is just it's one of those health tools that you have in your toolbox that does give you that, like dopamine rush.

00;46;17;19 - 00;46;38;06
Veda
That's not from like scrolling on your phone, like it's more of the natural one. And it just helps, like kind of reset your body and help the detoxification, reduce inflammation, all those things. But at the end of the day, is a stressor. When you step into a cold lunge, it's really cold and it puts your body into this kind of fight or flight, say, even though it's a healthier response.

00;46;38;08 - 00;46;56;27
Veda
So if you're someone who is in a season of life where you are beyond stress, you feel so tired you can't even get out of bed, you feel so burnt out. I don't think Cold Plunge is right for you because like I said, even though it's a good stressor, it's still a stressor. But that doesn't mean you're never going to be able to do it.

00;46;57;01 - 00;47;08;04
Veda
I just think it's best for when you are in a season of life where you feel like your body can handle it, where you feel like you're not at that point of burnout, that I think it's definitely a really good tool to have.

00;47;08;06 - 00;47;15;09
Stephanie
I would say yours is the best answer I've received so far. Like good. Really like it.

00;47;15;11 - 00;47;41;08
Seth
Well, I'm also going to say there there's a difference. We can draw a line here. Cold. Plunging for men typically is different than cold plunging for women or I should say women. You're going to process that differently. And within women within the cycle, right. There are times just like intermittent fasting, there are times that women should not be intermittent fasting, right, because of your hormone cycle.

00;47;41;14 - 00;48;05;00
Seth
Right. And the ebb and the flow and the, you know, the rebuilding and all of that. So I just I'm is I'm listening to you read, I'm like, oh, wait a second. Something I never thought about because, well, I'm not a woman is there are probably times of the month that are way less effective. Or should be probably avoided, right from a cold, plunging standpoint.

00;48;05;00 - 00;48;07;01
Seth
Any thoughts on that, you ladies?

00;48;07;03 - 00;48;34;12
Veda
Yeah. I'm, I'm a huge stickler for cycle speaking. It's my jam. I love talking about it. It's helped me a lot. But when you're in that second phase of the cycle. So, like, your luteal phase or like body's prepping to about your period, that's when your hormones are dropping. And at that point, like, it's not the time to do intermittent fasting, it's not the time to do a cold plunge or to do a sauna, or do intense exercise of anything.

00;48;34;12 - 00;49;00;29
Veda
We want to really work on bringing as much, like taking away as much stressors as possible and really relaxing our body, because the main thing kind of has cycles. Thinking works is the first half estrogen is starting to go up, our energy hormone. The second half, progesterone is going up, which is our relaxation hormone. So ideally we really want to live with the alignment of that rising estrogen progesterone and living our life according to that.

00;49;00;29 - 00;49;18;22
Veda
So for woman, like you were saying, it's very different than men. Men have like a 24 hour cycle. They wake up, their day starts over in the next day's the same, the next after that. Whereas woman, it's a 28 to 35 day cycle. If your cycles are normal and because your hormones are shifting, you should also be shifting what that.

00;49;18;24 - 00;49;40;28
Seth
Like what percentage of women would you say are really in tune and understand their hormone cycle? I'm not talking about they understand they have a period, right? I'm saying they understand the luteal phase. They understand what's happening. They understand that during them there are four seasons, there are four. You were just talking about this the other day, weren't you?

00;49;41;00 - 00;49;55;01
Seth
That a woman basically goes through an entire year in a month, right? If we're going to compare it to the Earth's, the Earth's seasons. Right. Like, how many women do you think are really like, understand that?

00;49;55;03 - 00;50;17;10
Stephanie
Well, based off of conversations that I've had with a lot of women, typically you say your cycle and I think just the period they don't really understand all the intricacies of it. And once you I feel like once you do understand it, you understand yourself. You understand your body, you understand your emotions. There's so much to it.

00;50;17;12 - 00;50;40;23
Stephanie
And then going a step further, how much of a gift it is. But cycle like I've always looked at the cycle or sorry, the the period cycle as something to be dreaded. You know, because of the PMS, because of, it just all of it. There's just so much that can be there. And so I would dread it.

00;50;40;23 - 00;51;09;07
Stephanie
And once I get to know my body and how to support it, it the period cycle is actually not something to be necessarily dreaded. I really don't dread it like I used to. Sometimes there might be annoying things about it, but it's not like, oh, I'm so bloated I'm cramping, I can't get out of bed or, you know, I can't do the things that I want to or, you know, the the tools that you use to support you during that, you know, can can become annoying.

00;51;09;09 - 00;51;37;02
Stephanie
But being in a healthier place now, it really is not as much of a nuisance. And I realize that it's such a gift from God. Yeah. And and something I learned recently was that the period is another detox pathway that we've been given, and I'm just I was mind blown. And just one more reason to be grateful for my period.

00;51;37;05 - 00;51;56;12
Veda
Yeah, yeah, I feel very similar because our periods are fifth vital sign. And I used to be the exact same way. I mean, I have horrible periods, like I went on birth control and I just dread it as like, oh, really? It's coming again. Like it's that time in the mind now I hear people and they tell me they're like, oh yeah, I don't have a period.

00;51;56;12 - 00;52;14;12
Veda
I'm like, you don't have a period. I'm like, what? Like, you don't have a period? Are you? Are you serious? Like, that's so, so important. Whereas old me would of not care. I'm like, I wish I was you like I wish I haven't. It's but it's like you said, it's a gift from God. Like there's a reason why women have different pace of the month.

00;52;14;12 - 00;52;22;25
Veda
Like he did that on purpose. And we should honor that. We should live in cyclical nature of it and not necessarily get angry at it.

00;52;22;27 - 00;52;30;18
Seth
So is this going to come as a shock if I tell you ladies that I don't have a period?

00;52;30;21 - 00;52;31;13
Stephanie

00;52;31;15 - 00;52;57;27
Seth
Let's talk about healthy periods, though. Like, I know that I know that we've heard we've listened to you discuss lecture about healthy versus unhealthy periods. I think there are a lot of women who who are accepting a certain level of symptomology. Right. And just like not looking forward to things, it's a negative, it's a negative experience. Right.

00;52;58;00 - 00;53;07;25
Seth
Well, and frankly, I mean, like, growing up, there was nothing positive, right, in the culture I grew up with. Not saying just my home. I'm just like I'm talking more about pop culture.

00;53;07;28 - 00;53;09;28
Stephanie
Society as a whole. Yeah. Like, yeah.

00;53;10;00 - 00;53;19;16
Seth
That oh, it's that time of the month. Like stay away from, you know, stay away from the grizzly bear over there. Right. Because it's that time of the month and it's that time and and it was.

00;53;19;21 - 00;53;23;20
Stephanie
Or even if like you were a little snappy, it's like, oh, you must be on your period.

00;53;23;20 - 00;53;25;00
Seth
Yeah. That was the I was the and.

00;53;25;00 - 00;53;28;04
Stephanie
I get something so negative. So negative.

00;53;28;04 - 00;53;32;28
Seth
Right. And and obviously that culture I think is shifting I know, I know in our.

00;53;32;28 - 00;53;34;18
Stephanie
Home at least in our world, it is it.

00;53;34;18 - 00;53;39;19
Seth
Is in our world. I tell you, we are raising boys who know. I would tell you.

00;53;39;19 - 00;53;41;12
Stephanie
You know, girls who are not afraid.

00;53;41;13 - 00;54;03;28
Seth
Amen. You don't know this about us media. We have we have we have a blended family of ten kids. So, Stephanie, I had six kids. Stephanie had two children. When we met, ten years ago this year. We actually celebrate our anniversary in December. So for everybody who's listening, you can forward your.

00;54;03;28 - 00;54;04;24
Stephanie
I can I don't.

00;54;04;29 - 00;54;06;24
Seth
Okay.

00;54;06;26 - 00;54;09;00
Stephanie
He's just kidding. But anyways.

00;54;09;02 - 00;54;37;17
Seth
So we're celebrating ten years. And, you know, we've blended families. We have six boys, we have four girls, we have grandchildren now, and we're very open, right? We're very open. These boys, like, nobody needs to blush when we say the P word. Right. And any of the p words that that have anything to do with any bodily functions, like like let's just get clinical right now and and non non emotional non shaming non taboo.

00;54;37;23 - 00;54;59;27
Seth
Right. This again ignorance and fear. Right. We are going to nip those in the bud and burn them to ashes. And you know boys we're going to talk about periods and we're going to talk about it in a healthy way. We're going to help you understand. Right. I mean women need to understand their bodies. Men need to understand women's bodies, too.

00;54;59;29 - 00;55;31;21
Seth
One of the most tragic things I think I've ever heard in my life when it comes to relationships is some some husband basically shaming his wife because of her cycle, because of her hormones and and how that changes. That changes, you know, your your pheromones. It changes your, you know, your body chemistry. It changes like, you know, just changes a lot of things that, you know, in the senses.

00;55;31;25 - 00;55;35;01
Seth
Right. And and that I just think what a tragedy.

00;55;35;03 - 00;55;55;14
Stephanie
It just made me think of probably the one of the saddest things that I've heard of around the period. And, you know, a couple is that a husband, will sleep on the couch whenever his wife is on her period because it's so gross to him. And I'm just like, oh, where is that man I know? Where is he?

00;55;55;17 - 00;55;56;24
Stephanie
Like.

00;55;56;26 - 00;55;57;29
Seth
He's he's on the couch.

00;55;58;07 - 00;56;08;13
Stephanie
Okay. This is not okay. Show me that couch. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's what I was going to say. It just make me think of that.

00;56;08;15 - 00;56;11;05
Seth
I'm happy to say that I'm not afraid of the period.

00;56;11;07 - 00;56;28;01
Stephanie
No he's not. I'm grateful. It's really done a lot of healing for me because, you know, it was something that I've never really talked about, you know, even in my 30s. And I was going on a trip and I started my period early and I'm like, oh my goodness, I got my supplies on me either back at, you know, in the hotel or whatever.

00;56;28;01 - 00;56;41;07
Stephanie
And, and I just remember going up to this, woman in the South and kind of like almost whispering her, I, I'm this, you know, grown woman with the blended family of ten kids and grandkids, and I'm whispering.

00;56;41;10 - 00;56;43;15
Seth
To the to the, in the, in the hotel.

00;56;43;15 - 00;57;10;09
Stephanie
Yeah. The service desk. Do you, do you have any, feminine supplies? And she's like, girl, why are you whispering? You shouldn't be ashamed, you know, and I don't remember what else she said, but I was just like, you know what? Like, it really had such a huge impact on me. I wish I could remember her name and, you know, go back and tell her, like you gave me permission to not have to hide or be ashamed that I'm on my period.

00;57;10;11 - 00;57;32;04
Stephanie
Like, what a beautiful gift she gave me and how I'm going to help pass that on to my children and grandchildren. Like, this is how God made us. It's a gift. We don't need to hide it. We can embrace it and celebrate it and and help other people to do the same. You know, it's. Anyways, I was excited to talk about that.

00;57;32;07 - 00;57;38;04
Seth
I love that story. I can't wait for you to say that to two other women girlfriends.

00;57;38;06 - 00;57;40;22
Stephanie
Girl.

00;57;40;25 - 00;57;58;12
Seth
So let's talk about healthy periods or unhealthy periods. You know, you work with a lot of women who bring this, you know, and you're looking at these symptoms and basically telling them, hey, that's actually not normal, right? So there's something we can do about that. Can you just elaborate?

00;57;58;14 - 00;58;21;20
Veda
Yeah, yeah. So, a healthy period is typically between the days 28 and 35. And typically like when you're about to start your period, when you enter your luteal phase, that's when that big word PMS comes in where a lot of people do struggle with it. Like their skin starts to break down, especially around their jawline. Maybe that they feel a bit more bloated.

00;58;21;20 - 00;58;48;05
Veda
They feel very cramped, be where they feel like they need ibuprofen or heating pad. They get really irritable, sugar cravings, like tons of symptoms that like, are really no one really what's kind of come about. But that's not normal. And I think when I used to have, really bad PMS, like, that's why I dreaded my period because I was like, it's that time of the month.

00;58;48;06 - 00;59;06;22
Veda
I'm going to have to take ibuprofen. I'm going to have to lay in bed. Like I kind of prepped myself of like, okay, what day is day one? I'm probably going to have to miss school or miss work because I'm going to be in so much pain. And that's where that dread team in. But that's not normal. Even though it's common, it's not normal.

00;59;06;22 - 00;59;36;06
Veda
And when you enter that second phase of your cycle, so that's after your ovulation period. It's the longest phase unfortunately. But I solutio phase right before your bleed. And during this time you should naturally feel lower energy because like I said earlier, that estrogen is dropping, progesterone rising. So you likely won't have as much energy to go do a crazy workout in the gym you might want to stay in rather than going out with friends or family.

00;59;36;08 - 00;59;55;05
Veda
You might have a little bit more cravings because in that phase in the cycle, women should be eating about 300 to 500 calories more because your body is craving it and it needs it. And that's why women literally get that hunger cue of why do I feel like I could eat the whole pantry? Like I feel so hungry?

00;59;55;11 - 01;00;15;07
Veda
And that's normal, but not to the point where, like, you feel hangry and not you're going to go crazy if you don't have it. So it's finding that balance. But more or less a normal period should not bring tons of pain. It may bring like slight discomfort. It might bring like, like I said, a little bit of the cravings, a little bit of that lower energy.

01;00;15;07 - 01;00;36;26
Veda
But it shouldn't stop you from living. You should still be able to navigate your daily living. You should be able to go to work, go to school, hang out with friends, whatever it is. But it shouldn't, like, hold you back from that. Now, a lot of people are on birth control where they either have, no period, or they have a quote unquote period, and that's not actually a bleed.

01;00;36;26 - 01;00;56;11
Veda
That's kind of just like the die off. So people who are on birth control pill and they're like, oh, I saw my period. That's not really your period, because birth control is shutting down that brain to over a connection, therefore shutting down that proper production of estrogen and progesterone. And it's essentially stopping you from ovulating because you're trying not to get pregnant.

01;00;56;11 - 01;01;17;09
Veda
And if you don't ovulate, you can't have a period. But like, that's just how the woman's body works. But a lot of people don't know that. And I think a lot of women don't have a normal period, and they suffer with tons of PMS because they they are educated on it, like they don't know the right tools on how to best take care of their body.

01;01;17;15 - 01;01;33;17
Veda
They aren't told when they are offered birth control that x, y, z can also come with it. And by the way, when you come off birth control, you're likely going to have all of these x, y, z symptoms. So women just think that's their only option of like I don't know what else to do. I don't want to deal with this every mod.

01;01;33;20 - 01;01;43;27
Veda
So they get on birth control. That's literally going to just completely stop their period. And they'll be on it for years and years and years when it's really just worsening their body even more.

01;01;44;00 - 01;01;45;21
Stephanie
Amen.

01;01;45;24 - 01;01;52;10
Seth
I was hoping you were going to get into that. You did it. You hit it.

01;01;52;12 - 01;02;13;26
Stephanie
One thing that, I think a lot of people don't understand too, and that doctors I don't know that women will go in and want to get on birth control for years, and then they're like, okay, I want to have a baby. And a lot of times it's really difficult to get pregnant afterwards because of what you've done with your body.

01;02;13;28 - 01;02;34;00
Stephanie
And typically doctors will just say, oh no, you're fine. You know, just when you're ready to have a baby, just get off and you should be able to get pregnant. And it's really not that simple because of what the birth control does to your body. And I feel like we're seeing an influx of, infertility. And I know that's one contributing factor to that.

01;02;34;02 - 01;02;35;27
Veda
Yeah. Like you said, it's very in.

01;02;35;29 - 01;02;38;02
Stephanie
Education, out education, you know.

01;02;38;02 - 01;03;03;14
Veda
Yes. Yes, yes. Right. Yeah. It's unfortunate too, because many women think now that like, expensive therapy is their only option to potentially have a kid or they just accept they're never going to be able to have a kid. But it's because, I mean, there's many factors that can cause it, but that birth control is literally depleting your astronaut just from for so long that when you come off of that, you basically don't have progesterone.

01;03;03;14 - 01;03;36;23
Veda
And when you don't have progesterone, it is nearly impossible to then try to have a baby. And it also affects your thyroid. If your thyroid is imbalanced, it's going to be very hard to have a kid. But most women, they kind of fall to the resource and spending tens and thousands of dollars that may work. That may not work, when in reality all they need to do is to work with someone, educate themselves like gut health, liver health, mineral balancing, all of that, and you will be able to have much more likely be able to have like a successful pregnancy.

01;03;36;25 - 01;04;05;19
Seth
If you're loving this conversation, if you want more incredible insight to hormone health and, and, and I'm going to actually have we're going to have Veda really talk to the woman that that she serves. But please check out the show notes. You can find her on Instagram, on TikTok. On on and on her website. And also she has a free guide to a woman's hormone reset, which I know a lot of women will be will be interested.

01;04;05;19 - 01;04;14;18
Seth
So check out the show notes. Veda, who's the, who do you help? Like, who's your ideal client?

01;04;14;20 - 01;04;35;04
Veda
Yeah. So my ideal client is woman. That's mainly who I work with. And from a more mental, emotional side, it's someone who just doesn't feel good in their body. Like they don't even know themselves. They feel like they lack a lot of confidence. They feel like when they look in the mirror, they don't know themselves. They don't have a lot of self-love.

01;04;35;09 - 01;05;05;08
Veda
When they walk into a room, they're comparing themselves to others. They don't have a lot of like, good compassion and empathy for themselves, and they just truly don't really know who they are. They feel stuck. They feel like they're just surviving. Truly, they're not thriving. They're surviving. And they also often deal with the physical symptoms of dreading their period, having that PMS feeling so bloated that every time they put on a pair of pants, they feel horrible and it they feel insecure in it.

01;05;05;11 - 01;05;24;20
Veda
They feel like they can't lose weight. They feel like they sleep ten hours and they still can't get out of bed in the morning, and their doctor's likely been brushing this off as normal. And that's where I really want to step in for those clients. And rather than having them just survive, I want them to thrive. And I want them to find that inner glow.

01;05;24;20 - 01;05;43;24
Veda
That's kind of my niche. And my, my business statement is finding your inner glow, and I want women to be able to get into what that going into what their bodies and glow up in all aspects of their life physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually. So when they do walk in a room, they know who they are. They're not comparing themselves to others.

01;05;43;27 - 01;05;56;00
Veda
When they look in a mirror, they feel super duper confident. They can set boundaries with themselves, and they're just really proud of the woman that they are and the body that God has given them.

01;05;56;02 - 01;05;57;04
Stephanie
Beautiful love.

01;05;57;04 - 01;06;30;14
Seth
It, love it, love it. You surprised me there. Honestly, often when we when we talk with people in, in, you know, integrative medicine, functional medicine, you know, fitness coaches, etc., we almost always unequivocally the answer starts with some symptom, some external health issue problem. I mean, you've you've you know, we've talked about some of the health challenge you've gone through with depression and anxiety and cystic acne and Lyme disease, and you didn't start there like that.

01;06;30;14 - 01;06;34;19
Seth
That really kind of surprised me.

01;06;34;21 - 01;07;05;22
Veda
Yeah. Yeah, I'm a huge component of mindset, emotional, mental, spiritual work because that was a huge part of my journey. Like when I look back at my journey, yes, I dealt with a lot of physical symptoms, but I also dealt with a lot of mental and emotional, and I've had to not only overcome my depression and my anxiety and get off of an antidepressant, but I've had to overcome a lot of mindset battles.

01;07;05;25 - 01;07;27;05
Veda
I did deal with this stuff at a young age. I was in high school going into college. All my peers around me were not living the life that I was living, and I had to really figure out who I was and not conform to the patterns of the world and not conform to society. And it really, through that process, I learned a lot about myself and allowed me to become in tune with myself.

01;07;27;09 - 01;07;58;23
Veda
I overcame a lot of mindset struggles. I grew my relationship closer with God, and I really think that that is the biggest car of anyone's healing journey. Like you can. Yes. Diet. Yes. Sleep? Yes. Supplements. All those things play such a huge role. And I think that you need them in order to achieve optimal healing. But if you don't believe your body can heal, if you have a lot of hate towards yourself, if you are walking into a healing journey thinking that you're not going to be able to get to the other end, you will not get to the other end.

01;07;58;29 - 01;08;03;26
Veda
So having that good mindset about yourself is so, so imperative.

01;08;03;28 - 01;08;08;23
Stephanie
I definitely agree. You know, the have you ever read The Body Keeps the Score?

01;08;08;26 - 01;08;11;14
Veda
I have not, but I've heard many people rave about it.

01;08;11;14 - 01;08;22;26
Stephanie
Yeah, it's really good. And just making that connection of the physical symptoms because of the emotional, elements. Anyway, so it's a really, really good book.

01;08;23;04 - 01;08;43;01
Seth
Can we jump back to those? I think we're going to wrap up here. This been awesome, by the way. Thank you so much. You have brought yeah incredible message. Let's talk about healthy fats. Because I know you you gave an impassioned speech about that. We feel passionate about that. You know we're starting to preach more openly about that.

01;08;43;08 - 01;08;49;12
Seth
So let's talk about healthy fats and oils. Just for a minute. What. But let's talk about healthy fats.

01;08;49;15 - 01;09;25;08
Veda
Yeah. So healthy fats. Some examples of them would be like, olive oil, avocado oil, tallow, grass fed butter, ghee, avocado, not seeds, things like that. Those contain a lot of nutrients and fats. Like I mentioned earlier, there, they contain cholesterol, which is helpful for hormone production. They also keep us satiated for very long periods of time because they are slower to digest and for someone who may feel like they need to snack every 1 or 2 hours, I really suggest looking into your meals.

01;09;25;08 - 01;09;45;03
Veda
Like do you have enough protein? But also do you have enough fat? Because if you're not like carbs, digest at a much quicker rate, which is going to cause you to feel hungrier sooner, whereas fats digest much slower. So you shouldn't technically feel hungry for 3 to 4 hours after your meal if you're getting quality amounts of it.

01;09;45;05 - 01;10;02;22
Veda
And fats are just overall, they're good for a brain health, like they have such good sources of omega three. And if you think of, a walnut like a walnut is a fat source and it's kind of shaped like a brain and it's a really good brain booster, it can help with, like, anxiety, depression, and just overall healing.

01;10;02;22 - 01;10;28;25
Veda
Whereas the seed oils, the bad guys like canola oil, soybean oil, vegetable oil, those are what a lot of people use. Or like Pam spray for, their when they're cooking dinner or whatever. Those are doing the complete opposite. And I think that's where sometimes fats get the bad rep. But not all fats are bad. It's the seed oils that you really want to avoid, like, truly try to avoid at all costs.

01;10;28;25 - 01;10;54;04
Veda
When you're cooking at home. Avoid buying those. Get the healthier oil swaps. When you do go out to restaurants, try to choose foods that aren't fried and like that. Likely don't acid oils and also like what I do is when I get a salad, I asked for a side of balsamic and a side of olive oil because a lot of the times salad dressings are filled with seed oils and it's this things that you never think of.

01;10;54;08 - 01;11;14;06
Veda
Like like if you're listening to this, go into your pantry, go into your fridge and look at things and you'll be shocked to see that, like the first ingredient, which is the most prominent ingredient in the food is canola oil, vegetable oil, soybean oil. And you wonder why you have such bad press. You wonder why you're you feel so inflamed all the time, and that could be the culprit of it.

01;11;14;10 - 01;11;15;02
Veda

01;11;15;05 - 01;11;38;22
Stephanie
Yeah. I've been shocked. So my naturopathic doctor has, encouraged me to do more gluten free foods. And so it's, it's really, at least for me, it's been kind of difficult to find products, especially carbs, breads or pastas that either don't have seed oils in it or that the texture and taste are good. Like it's really, really hard to find that.

01;11;38;22 - 01;12;03;06
Stephanie
And and I've been really surprised, you know, going to Costco and thinking, oh, you know, they've got some great products and getting the bread, you know, that was highly recommended by others that are gluten free. And then bringing it home, be like, are you kidding me? There's seed oils in this. Yeah. And you really do have to be, I don't even know what the word is, but proactive and looking at every ingredient in the labels.

01;12;03;06 - 01;12;15;24
Stephanie
And I feel like now that I'm. I'm that woman that's at the store and flipping around every single thing that I'm, you know, looking at buying and reading all the ingredients and but that's okay, I'll do it. I'll take that title.

01;12;15;27 - 01;12;35;16
Seth
Well, can you imagine having having something that you absolutely love? You know, I don't know, maybe it's a car or something. You know, it's it's the possession that you love. And instead of taking care of it, right, you just dump whatever into it, right in, in the engine, on the upholstery. You know what I mean? Think about whatever.

01;12;35;17 - 01;12;54;09
Seth
Whatever your car is, you know, whatever is maybe maybe it's a, I don't know, a pink Jeep with 30 threes, you know, with it with a three inch lift. Or maybe it's a BMW six series, you know, soft top. But can you imagine going and putting the lowest grade, the lowest grade of, fuel in it? Oh, no.

01;12;54;15 - 01;13;18;11
Seth
Well, now let's take it a step further. What if every time you filled up, you just decided that you're going to throw whatever in there? Some other liquid, you know? Oh, yeah. There's some dirt. Like, we we know that that's ludicrous. And yet the most amazing machine on the face of the planet is the human body. And actually, I'm going to say the woman's body.

01;13;18;13 - 01;13;29;22
Seth
Just kind of sounded like something I wanted to say. But but there are reasons men's bodies are amazing, too. But, but but there's something even more. I think, even beautiful about the woman's body.

01;13;29;24 - 01;13;38;07
Stephanie
Well, one thing about a woman's body is that you can carry a child and that's divinely appointed, you know, like, so.

01;13;38;13 - 01;14;16;08
Seth
Anyways. Yep. That's exactly that's a that's exactly where I was going. But but we have become accustomed because of maybe our affluence, because of, frankly, ease ease, ease, ease and because we've essentially farmed out or I should say we have we have released our responsibility. And I'm speaking societal in general. ISM say that if it's in the grocery store, then it's food, right?

01;14;16;10 - 01;14;46;21
Seth
And that's not the case. 80% of what is in that grocery store today is processed highly processed, or ultra processed. And I'm not saying that processing is bad. Listen, I would rather have some nice sourdough bread. There's a process there. Then be chomping on turkey red winter wheat, right. All winter. So I'm not talking about all processing, but we have a fabulous little bakery here.

01;14;46;23 - 01;15;05;04
Seth
We live about ten miles out of town in the country, but in this small town there's a fabulous little bakery called Abigail's Oven. And they make basically four ingredient sourdough bread for four ingredients. And there's nothing that my, my, my nine year old can't read. Right.

01;15;05;05 - 01;15;06;04
Stephanie

01;15;07;18 - 01;15;38;11
Seth
And we need to get back to that place where we actually realize that we're not living in an agrarian society where, hey, my dad just butchered the chicken, right? My uncle grows the wheat. We pulled some garden tomatoes out. There's no glyphosate. You know, on those tomatoes or, you know, on, on, on that wheat. And the meat was clean like we have to put in the effort because you will eat.

01;15;38;11 - 01;16;03;24
Seth
You will either pay for it now or you will pay for it later, but either way, you're going to have to pay. I remember Veda oh goodness, 15 years ago. It's kind of in my. That's how I'm remembering it. Maybe that that canola oil kind of came into kind of came more into the forefront of, of, the cooking world.

01;16;03;24 - 01;16;31;27
Seth
Right. And being available in grocery stores because prior to that, we were just using vegetable oil. Right. And at some point we realized, oh, vegetable oil isn't happy. I remember I can see this in my mind. I don't remember the exact time, but oh, canola oil. Canola oil is the healthy choice. And so canola mayonnaise, right? Canola mayonnaise I remember the days where we where we were proud of ourselves because we were making the healthy choice of eating canola mayonnaise.

01;16;31;27 - 01;16;32;27
Stephanie
Crisco.

01;16;33;00 - 01;16;33;05
Seth
Or.

01;16;33;05 - 01;16;43;07
Stephanie
Chris egg. One. For me, growing up was Crisco the healthier choice? And now I'm looking back. I mean, like, what?

01;16;43;09 - 01;17;10;02
Seth
Right. And then what we also have to realize is it's going to be a little inconvenient. Yeah. Being healthy is in order to change your habits, you you will probably experience some inconvenience. I don't really find it super inconvenient now, but at the first it is that way, right? It's like, yeah. Oh well, now you just know that any tortilla chips I love tortilla chips right, are pretty much garbage.

01;17;10;02 - 01;17;14;08
Seth
And so we got to that is and I'm just going to say that is an atrocity.

01;17;14;10 - 01;17;19;19
Stephanie
I do have a question. Do you know, about the Seattle chips or is that De brand about.

01;17;19;19 - 01;17;23;02
Veda
Being far out by Cup. Yes.

01;17;23;04 - 01;17;24;00
Stephanie
Yes.

01;17;24;02 - 01;17;29;14
Veda
It's sad I know, I know I love Sad Day.

01;17;29;19 - 01;17;41;06
Stephanie
Yes. So I have heard that, you know we probably have like 6 to 12 months until they, you know, switch over the ingredients. So I'm like okay well.

01;17;41;08 - 01;17;42;16
Veda
No stock up.

01;17;42;18 - 01;17;47;20
Stephanie
Yeah. Yeah exactly. But they go bad. Let me tell you. Those chips go back.

01;17;47;22 - 01;17;49;20
Veda
Yeah. They get stale real quick.

01;17;49;21 - 01;18;03;09
Stephanie
They do. You can taste it. You definitely can taste it. But at least for now, you know I'll still buy it. But I'll look at the ingredients before I buy it to make sure that those haven't been switched out yet. Right? Right.

01;18;03;11 - 01;18;27;21
Seth
Well, as we wrap up, seed oils and I do like V8, I think we're we're right on, on on point with you. One of the most important and very simple decisions you can make from a dietary standpoint is cut out bad oils, right? Cut out seed oils, at least 80%. And 100% would be great. But again, I'm we're we live in a world that's tainted, right.

01;18;27;24 - 01;18;51;21
Seth
It's not like, you know, I'm going to go to a restaurant now and quiz them on every single thing at the same time. Until we do that, until we say, hey, what are you cooking my steak in? And they say, you know, I don't know. Whatever oil they're using, it's either sesame oil or canola oil or some lower until we say, I'd actually like you to cook that in bar and butter.

01;18;51;23 - 01;18;56;19
Stephanie
How about we just bring your own butter? Do you think they'll do that?

01;18;56;21 - 01;19;21;16
Seth
Yeah, I've got a little. I've got a little beef tallow here. Can you take this? You know what I'm saying? But, until we do that, until we do that, until we put that pressure, restaurants won't, you know, they're they're not going to change. And and again, I, I'm not at this point even right now we're at where I'm when I'm out to eat, I do make different choices.

01;19;21;19 - 01;19;37;02
Seth
But I don't go ballistic right on every single thing. And some people will just say, listen, I'm just not going to eat out. I'm just not going to eat anything that gets close to it. And that's great for me. I'm like, how can I make that? How can I make a choice that's going to going to save 80% of it, right.

01;19;37;02 - 01;19;55;20
Seth
The easy thing and one is don't don't buy those at the store shop, you know, eat with, you know, I mean choose avocado oil. And then again, you got to be careful with avocado oil because you got to make sure it's real avocado oil. Right. Because there's that whole thing with avocado oil where some makers are are only labeling, in fact.

01;19;55;22 - 01;20;16;10
Seth
So I was talking to, a close relation of ours recently. Have a health conversation. This person's young in their 20s and, talking about mayonnaise, right? Not that mayonnaise is healthy. Right. But but there was a time in my life where I actually made handmade all my own mayo with olive oil and, you know, and fresh eggs.

01;20;16;15 - 01;20;38;14
Seth
And we may get back to doing that. But if you just look at mayonnaise, right. Just stop buying mayonnaise that you're buying and stop buying seed liquid seed oils and find something else, you know, do the olive oil or coconut oil or whatever, avocado oil. But we were talking about getting healthy mayonnaise, right? I shouldn't even say healthy mayonnaise.

01;20;38;14 - 01;20;53;27
Seth
But hey, listen, if you make mayo later and on your farm, it could be healthy, right? Healthy amount of good oils. We're pulling eggs. Literally, literally. I'm not going to say we're pulling them from the chickens. That sounds a little. Yeah, we're we're letting them we're letting them come.

01;20;53;27 - 01;20;57;04
Stephanie
You do that.

01;20;57;06 - 01;21;15;19
Seth
But if you're going to the store to buy mayo, he's like, oh yeah, I get avocado mayonnaise, right. Or olive oil mayonnaise. And and word to the wise, you still need to read the label unless you're buying Primal Kitchen, right?

01;21;15;22 - 01;21;20;01
Veda
Right. That's what I was thinking in my head. Unless you're buying, like I use their avocado oil.

01;21;20;08 - 01;21;39;00
Seth
Yes, unless you're buying Primal Kitchen. Go ahead and check out the affiliate link in the show notes. No, just we have no affiliate link for Primal Kitchen, but that is in our fridge. Because if you look at many or maybe even most of the other brands, it will say olive oil, it will say avocado oil, mayonnaise. You'll turn it over and you'll look.

01;21;39;00 - 01;22;04;12
Seth
And what is the first oil in there? It's canola oil. So you really have to be a wise consumer. Again. How do you how do you combat ignorance and fear with education? Right. With accountability that that that will decimate the fear and education and a little extra time so that you don't put, you know, these these literally toxins in your body.

01;22;04;14 - 01;22;06;27
Seth
Veda, thank you so much.

01;22;07;00 - 01;22;07;17
Stephanie
We appreciate.

01;22;07;17 - 01;22;10;05
Veda
You guys. Thank you for having me.

01;22;10;08 - 01;22;14;03
Seth
And cut. It's a wrap.

01;22;14;05 - 01;22;29;07
Stephanie
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01;22;29;09 - 01;22;43;10
Seth
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01;22;43;13 - 01;22;48;09
Stephanie
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