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Stephanie
Hi, I'm Stephanie.

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Seth
I'm Seth, and this is the Forever Young show. The most powerful force in this world is a woman who knows who she is, why? She is here, and what she wants to accomplish.

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Stephanie
And that's where self-care comes in. As a woman, it is my opportunity and my responsibility to take care of me.

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Seth
Self-care for your mind.

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Stephanie
Self-care for your body.

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Seth
Self-care for your money.

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Stephanie
Our mission is to serve women as they fulfill their irreplaceable roles and families. Society. Business. The fabric of humanity.

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Seth
So let's get this show on the road.

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Stephanie
Alicia Valdez is a professionally trained chef, wellness entrepreneur, and founder of Mountain Wellness Kitchen, a gluten free, dairy free and seed oil free meal service based in Heber City, Utah. I'm just.

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Seth
Going to say Amen, Amen, amen to all of.

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Alisha
That. Right?

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Seth
That's driven by her passion for holistic living and real food. Alicia helps women and families simplify healthy eating through scratch made meals and practical, nontoxic lifestyle lifestyle tips.

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Stephanie
As a mom of two and advocate for women's wellness, she's on a mission to make nourishment approachable, sustainable, and deeply empowering. So, Alicia, what are you most passionate about right now and what are you doing about it?

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Alisha
Cleaning up our food system. That's obviously my my foundation is just real food. Real clean. I, when I personally started, my wellness journey, I was pretty young. I was in my early 20s, and I had gotten pretty sick, and that's kind of what made me realize that our food system was, you know, pretty terrible.

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Alisha
But fast forward, the wellness kitchen, we really are just passionate about, providing real food, at a convenience to, I think people are busy. Families are busy. And I think being able to have a service for people that they can come and they can get pretty much anything on our menu, and they can know that it's, you know, gluten free, dairy free, seed, oil free, refined sugar free.

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Alisha
And so that that really is right now, what we are just really involved in trying to just spread the word, that, you know, that you can eat, clean, good food and you can eat it also, you know, added convenience. You know, people go out to eat so much and I think they forget that you can find places like ours that, you know, do serve real food.

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Alisha
There's a lot of places that are popping up that are really serving clean, clean options, which which is exciting because I think that's a big movement. And, and I really hope it just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

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Stephanie
One thing that I love, about your wellness kitchen, is that you include in there the seed oils that are free of seed oils. Yes, you.

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Seth
Include all the seed oils like give me give me right seed, right give, give, give me all the order I want. Them all will.

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Alisha
Yes. That that that's been a huge one is the seed oils.

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Stephanie
I'm, a couple different things. One, I'm seeing these different companies that are coming in and saying, okay, we're going to use tallow. And one of my big concerns is that it's going to be greenwashing. They're going to add tallow to it with the seed oils instead of taking the seed oils away and just using tallow. So I think that's really important for people to.

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Alisha
That's that's my big worry too is that's what's happened to like olive oil

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Seth
And avocado oil. Exactly.

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Alisha
You know, when you go to a restaurant and they say olive oil on the menu, you really have to ask because a lot of the times it's a blend. And maybe there's 10% olive oil in it, but 90%, you know, soybean oil or canola oils. You really do have to be conscious because there is so much greenwashing. Yes.

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Seth
Well, I didn't even know what greenwashing meant. You know, I just until Stephanie taught me, of course.

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Alisha

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Seth
But you know, where they're buying mayonnaise and and of course, you talk about convenience. You can just make your own mayo. You literally can. I mean, you're easy, but but you go and you say, okay, well, so I know as a consumer that olive oil is good for me. So I'm now I'm going to buy olive oil mayonnaise.

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Stephanie
Well, and sometimes it even says like cage free eggs with olive oil.

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Seth
Right. Or or the other one right now, which is kind of even newer is avocado oil. Right? I'm oh, oh, avocado oil, mayonnaise. But what you have to realize as a consumer is because the just because the label says avocado oil, mayonnaise or olive oil, mayonnaise or made with olive oil, you still have to look at the ingredients because the first over.

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Alisha
Because your first ingredient is canola oil. Yes.

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Seth
Right.

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Alisha
In your land.

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Seth
It's it's infuriating as as a consumer. But, I guess that's what you call greenwashing, right? Yes.

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Stephanie
We just make it look like a.

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Alisha
You know, full of.

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Stephanie
Healthy or healthful oils instead of, you know, being forthright.

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Alisha
Right?

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Stephanie
And saying that there are seed oils in there.

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Alisha
And know that's what it should be like and only 5% avocado oil. Avocado is the least ingredient in this. Yeah. So that's what's frustrating. I've I've had to educate a lot of people on that, a lot of my family because they're learning from me. And so they go to the store and they're like, I bought avocado mayonnaise.

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Alisha
And then I'm having to tell me, like, I'm like, well, I you still should eat this. It's basically the exact same ingredients as, you know, they're less. It's just that it's.

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Stephanie
Well, and they're doing it on so many of the healthy things, like even, like snacks. There's so many seed oils.

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Alisha
Hummus and everything. Just literally everything.

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Stephanie
Everything.

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Alisha
Everything. Oh, you see it? Yeah, we see it in in alternative milks too, like oat milk has, sunflower oil and safflower oil in your. Like what? Like, yeah. These things should not be either. My theory is just if we can't make it to its closest form of the just one ingredient, then we shouldn't then don't. Yeah.

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Alisha

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Stephanie
Yeah. And another one that was super surprising to me was chopstick.

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Alisha
Oh yeah.

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Stephanie
So many chopsticks have seed oils on them. And you know a lot of people are like oh I'm just putting it on my body. Well okay. Number one your body is, your skin is the biggest organ on your body. And it's going to absorb this into your bloodstream. And not only that, but the things that you're putting on your lips, if you think about it, you know, how often do you either lick your lips or, eat food or take a drink or anything and you're ingesting that?

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Alisha
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it goes straight into your body. Yep, yep.

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Seth
So we're happy. We're happy that, we're happy to hear, about seed oil free meal. So I always thought that it was a restaurant. Now it's not a sit down restaurant. Then this is a meal.

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Alisha
Sit down restaurant, too. Yeah. So we have, like, two kind of, I'd say businesses. One is our meal delivery service. And that is what we started first. And, our meal delivery service, we, we service Utah County, Salt Lake County, Park city, Wasatch County. We're starting to kind of go all over now. We have we partnered with a delivery service, kind of like, Uber Eats, type of service.

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Alisha
And so they now come to our location, grab all of our deliveries, and then they deliver them to our house. Yes, to your house. Exactly. Yes. Dangerous. I know we'll have to get you guys for meal, so I'll have to. I'll have to send you guys a meal so you can try that. And then our cafe is open Monday through Saturday.

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Alisha
From 9 to 4 or, sorry, 8 to 4. And that is like a full sit down. You can come order off the menu, get a hot meal. We have lots of lots of yummy options at the cafe. Like lots of smoothies or sables.

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Seth
You have our sables.

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Alisha
Yes, and we have some of that. I personally, I think we have some of the best sables in.

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Seth
No added sugar in the outside, no added sugar, obviously. Like like I know that was almost blasphemous asking Alicia about it, but but I was just like, let's just find out how real this girl is.

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Alisha
That was like, the biggest thing is every time I go to an Aussie place and I don't see the back of that, and it's like sugar cane sugar and I'm like, this is ice cream. I'm like essentially acid. Supposed to be a superfood. It's supposed to be beneficial for you, not give you full, you know, up sugar. So yeah, ours is, unsweetened from Brazil, and we just all we do is, it's actually in Aussie, mixed berries, present mixed berries, banana and then just coconut milk.

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Alisha
And then we top it with our housemade granola and fresh fruit, honey and sandy pollen. Okay, we know we need to. You have no question. It was just like portal. And I could just say, and here, try this.

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Stephanie
That would be.

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Alisha
Amazing.

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Seth
That's the next version of the podcast.

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Alisha
We open up a microwave door and it's there. Yes.

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Seth
We we love to say so much that that we do ask, right? Hey, is this, you know, how do you sweeten your essay? It's like, well, it should be sweetened by the berry. And understandable. Asci itself isn't a super sweet.

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Alisha
It's very quick, very tart. Right? But I don't need like.

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Seth
I'm wanting the fruit folks. You know, again, I'm not I'm not wanting your juicy pop. Right. You know, or whatever. And then when you're adding in the other, the other fruits, the fresh fruits.

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Alisha
Right when you add in the mixed berries and the banana and the options gods.

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Seth
And your honey and then you gonna tell it like, that's, that's how we like it, but we're always asking. We're kind of like, I don't want to say snobs. We got to come up with another word for us.

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Stephanie
Like, do you even remember why we started asking? Because I had an experience, so I like I'm really in tune with my body, really in tune. And, my friends and I decided to go celebrate one of their birthdays, and we were going to go to this new Asahi place in Provo. And, so we met there and I was like, you know what?

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Stephanie
I haven't eaten breakfast, so I'm just going to get like a large and I totally ate all of it. And then when I was done, I was shaking so bad. I mean, I know that's not the healthiest thing if you're just eating that breakfast, but but still, like, I shouldn't be shaking now. And so, I was a little shaky, and and I was like, that's so weird.

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Stephanie
I've eaten at many places that have also you. And I've never been this way before. And so I was like, oh, maybe it was just because I didn't eat breakfast. And so we had gone back a few months later and I had the same experience, but it was even worse. And so I was I just had this thought, obviously, from God.

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Stephanie
And so I went to the counter and I said, hey, what do you guys sweeten this with? And they were like, well, it depends on which one you eat. And they said, but most of them are sweetened with cane sugar. And I about dropped to the floor. I was like, are you serious?

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Alisha
Like, this is crazy.

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Stephanie
And so and of course it's the ones that I like the most.

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Alisha
Yeah. You know.

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Stephanie
And so after that, every time we've gone to Asahi, we're like, okay, do you add sugar? Okay. What kind of sweetener is that? You know, just was it.

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Alisha
Like a simple sirup that they added or.

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Stephanie
They they said mostly it's cane sugar. Just straight cane sugar.

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Alisha
Well, I think it's because mixed in our the my question is it mixed in with the Aussie already like yeah yeah okay. Yeah. Yeah.

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Stephanie
It's already mixed.

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Seth
All about the distribution right. Of what what you're buying. There's a place up in Salt Lake that we've gone to before and that we like. And, I mean, this how much we like. I say, and I say labels. Alicia, I think this is, of course, like, all good on, like, almost like 97% of the good things that come out of our houses from our chief health officer is sitting to my left here.

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Stephanie
And, you need to make me a shirt, I just.

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Alisha
Yes. That is so funny. Yes.

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Seth
And, and so we're like, can we buy some of this bulk from you? And no joke, they allowed us to buy the three gallon tubs.

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Alisha
Like.

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Seth
That's that they come in at, like, sure.

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Stephanie
It's not.

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Alisha
Five. No.

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Seth
It's three. Okay. And believe me, I know, I think it was $125 or something like that to buy a three gallon tub, but the number of us eyeballs.

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Alisha
Is going to say the number of size you can make with that was probably, oh.

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Seth
Yeah. Yeah. So.

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Alisha
You know, we yeah.

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Seth
Yeah. We we were and like whenever we travel Brisbane you know Australia and Sydney Australia like we're we're a save freaks for good as I so.

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Alisha
For you to try I, I'm so proud of our Aussie I'm like I just I know you love it. Well I'm excited to.

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Seth
Show you our credentials. Our site credentials will be, We'll be here. We're from the make. We're, we're from the make America Healthy again. Robert fk junior, rfc junior assay association. Oh my god. And, we'll be certifying you today. Maha certified.

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Alisha

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Stephanie
That should be a thing. Well, I mean, not only that, but then I typically get honey on top of my bowl.

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Alisha
Yeah. So, of course, I just want a little bit honey bomb. It's not even like you're the mentally. You're, like, not even thinking this is happening in your, like, when you put your body, it's like, what are you doing to me?

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Stephanie
Seriously? Freaking out.

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Alisha
Freak it out. It's funny how like, your mind body like connection. Like your mind was like, I'm not eating a bunch of sugar because you didn't know there was a ton of sugar in it. And then your body, it's like, no, I feel off. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, right. Then you're like, oh, okay. That's my body telling me that I.

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Alisha
My mind was right. Something wasn't right.

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Seth
Yeah, it's called frozen smarty juice. Right. It's the like the liquor starter.

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Alisha
Isn't healthy at all. There's nothing healthy. I mean, I feel like the trend, people forgot that the trend was actually about having a superfood rather than the Aussie. But now I think people are just like, they just don't care. They just. Yes, it's just another sugar bomb.

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Stephanie
Yep. I will say there was, another place in Provo that was doing acid also. And so before we went there, since I knew the other place, you know, the cane sugar, I'm like, let's avoid that place now unless it's for dessert. And so I called them and I was like, so do you sweeten it? And they were like, well, we add fruit.

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Stephanie
I'm like, so you don't add like cane sugar or anything like that. And they're like, no. Oh, that's gross. I'm like, okay, well come then. So what inspired you, Alisha, to create Mountain Wellness Kitchen?

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Alisha
I think just the amount of, disease and sickness, my personal experience from getting sick when I, when I was 19, I was essentially diagnosed with Crohn's. And I've always had a connection. That mind body connection. And when I was talking to the doctor, I pretty much told him I was like, well, I, I, I think it's food.

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Alisha
I'm going to try to go. I'm going to do a diet, essentially. And if it doesn't work, I'll be back. Because at that point he wanted to put me on a list of medication, and I'd really never been on medication in my in my entire life. And I was just I just didn't feel aligned with that. And I was like, well, I will be dead if I if, if this does it, if my if my changing my diet doesn't work.

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Alisha
And I laughed and sure enough within I would say for 3 or 4 weeks, I removed gluten, dairy, refined sugars, soy. I've pretty much, went to a paleo diet, within, like I said, within a few weeks, I, started noticing, like, major differences. My gut, my skin, my hair. And then within six months, I was, I would say I was fully in remission, no symptoms whatsoever.

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Alisha
And I went back and I was just just to, you know, like, you know, I was like, look, I'm, I'm I feel good. I did this, this and this. And he literally I couldn't even tell him what I did. And he basically was like, well, you you've healed yourself, so you don't need me anymore. And pretty much just told me to leave.

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Alisha

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Seth
He didn't care about. He didn't care about.

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Alisha
He could care less about what was truly healing me. He was annoyed that I didn't want to take medication and that, you know, I solve my problems, you know? And he said, he goes, oh, you're a rare case. Yeah. I'm like a rare case. Yeah.

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Seth
You are a rare case because you wanted to do something about it, and you were willing to make a lifestyle change and not just take the red or the blue pill.

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Alisha
And that's exactly it. And you know what's so funny, too, is like being young. I think I had a lot of determination because I don't being told I can't do something. And so I was like, oh, I will do this. I'll figure this out. You know, when I really learned what Crohn's was, I was like, that just connection.

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Alisha
I was like, it's inflammation of your gut in your intestines. And I'm like, what goes through your intestines? What goes through your gut food? And I'm like, it's how can this not, you know? And I just kept going back and forth. I'm like, how could this guy doctor not know that literally this disease is, you know, and I was 19, I was in college.

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Alisha
I was mom eating, drinking everything I shouldn't be doing. And I think my for me, I think that was my tipping point. You know, I think a lot of kids, a lot of, you know, 20 year olds can go a long time before they hit their tipping point. But I think I was, just weak, and I just, I couldn't anymore.

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Alisha
And so I'm glad that it happened to me pretty young, because I feel like I have a lot of people in my life now who are in their late 30s in full blown Crohn's. And it's scary watching them in full blown Crohn's. I'm like, oh my gosh, had someone taught you to heal yourself before? Because now there a lot of them have lost me bags and that that and that once they remove your intestines, you're, they're gone.

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Alisha
And so it's it's a really scary disease. And what's so frightening is that the doctors are literally just kind of like, well, you have like two options. You take the medication and then you get to the point where the medication is not working anymore. And we take your intestines. So they kind of let people know that, like, you get to this point and then that's when we have to do surgery.

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Alisha
But I'm like, hey, are we why are we even getting to this point when really at this point you tell these people to remove this, this, this and this, you know, clean up their lifestyle, sleep, heal themselves and and they don't need surgery. So that that really taught me. But my biggest thing too, was that I had so many friends that started having autoimmune disease.

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Alisha
And a lot of them had Hashimoto's. And so I was already eating a gluten free, dairy free diet, which is recommended for Hashimoto. And so these friends were like, well, you know, prep for me. You're already kind of meal prepping. And so I sort of had that when they start telling other people and it just grew word of mouth and turn up and it turned into like a business.

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Alisha
I honestly did not plan to have this as a business. Is it just my passion? But it turned into a real business. And that's when I decided that I wanted, the brick and mortar. I wanted a place where people could come in that they could sit down and know everything they were eating was clean, gluten free, you know, seed oil free and and same with our meal delivery service.

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Alisha
I wanted to have a service that, you know, is delivered to your door. All you have to do is literally put it in a sort pan or an oven, and you have organic, you know, seed oil free, gluten free food, right? Right at your dinner table. I love this.

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Seth
This this is dangerous information.

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Stephanie
It's very good. Even my friend that's in the hospital right now, like, I'm so excited to tell her about her business and that she can have it delivered to her.

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Alisha
House.

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Seth
Or to the hospital.

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Stephanie
Or to the.

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Alisha
House.

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Stephanie
So what she she does, she she one of the things she said in the text was, I can't eat this food and a swear word. And, she's like, because it's not food. And I know that this is not going to help me heal. So if anybody is willing to bring me some clean food.

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Alisha
Yeah.

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Stephanie
I would love it that.

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Alisha
That's kind of my next passion project is trying to get into the hospitals. That is one of the institutional. Yes, because if there is not real that that's not change. There's I mean, what I'm trying to say, there's no real healing. And hospitals, if we're not providing real food. Yes. And when you like, when I had both my babies at the same thing, I was, you know, I'm like looking at everything.

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Alisha
And I'm saying I had food called in because I was like, I can't even have the dressing, you know, there's soy or they.

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Seth
You know, play. Yeah. You can't play because, you know.

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Alisha
Because that's.

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Stephanie
Not really okay.

00;23;15;09 - 00;23;25;10
Alisha
It's not really, you know, crazy is there's just so much money in the hospital system. And I'm like, but we can't. But Coca-Cola sponsors it. Like, what are we doing?

00;23;25;13 - 00;23;27;05
Stephanie
Yes.

00;23;27;07 - 00;23;54;20
Alisha
It's sad. It's frustrating. My husband works for air medicine, Pfizer helicopter and Coca-Cola literally sponsors that that the emergency room. I don't know what they call it. But like with free coke and free all of their sodas and everything, and I'm just like, this is I'm like, this is sad and pathetic. I'm like, this is you guys should be eating real food, you know, promoting real food, but it's just so bad.

00;23;54;20 - 00;23;56;25
Alisha
It's so backwards. It is backwards.

00;23;56;26 - 00;23;59;28
Stephanie
It is. Hasn't always been this way. But yeah, I know when you look at.

00;23;59;28 - 00;24;16;22
Alisha
Like, how hospitals used to be, how they used to use linen sheets and how they used to not have the fluorescent lighting, they used to have the iridescent, iridescent lighting. Because that's better for healing, too. They used to serve real food.

00;24;16;25 - 00;24;41;02
Stephanie
I recently saw a real, not a real a video. And it was, testing those two different lightings on I think it was like a kindergarten class. And the first one showed the kids at their desks or other. They they all had, you know, long table. So there were like 4 or 5 in the room and they were like all jittery, moving around, constantly having to do something and especially this one little boy, I was so sad for him.

00;24;41;04 - 00;24;53;07
Stephanie
And then they changed the lighting. And I want to say it was within like a day or two and the room was so much more calm. And that's the only thing they changed was the lighting. It was crazy.

00;24;53;09 - 00;24;57;24
Alisha
It really is. It's crazy. I mean, when you start going down these rabbit.

00;24;57;29 - 00;25;00;07
Seth
I was just about to say.

00;25;00;10 - 00;25;19;26
Alisha
You were just like, oh my gosh, you're kind of mind blown. And you're just like, what? What are we doing to why are we doing this? First of all, that's that's my big thing. I'm like, why are we doing this to our kids? What's the purpose of. But then you go down the rabbit hole and you're like, oh, we're literally building robots, you know, like that's like what they're trying to do for our children.

00;25;19;26 - 00;25;24;24
Alisha
They don't want them to think, they don't want them to use their own, you know.

00;25;24;26 - 00;25;26;02
Stephanie
Brain educated.

00;25;26;03 - 00;25;30;18
Alisha
Yes. Follow. Follow the money. Follow the money.

00;25;30;24 - 00;25;54;15
Seth
Now that you're talking to entrepreneurs who who love creating business, we love making money. We love helping women around the world make money as wellness entrepreneur. So yes, I we I can't just say leave it at the money. Money's bad. No, but follow the money and follow the control. Right where those two intersect. Like, listen, you want to make a ton of money off of me.

00;25;54;21 - 00;26;14;10
Seth
Awesome. You're providing me something that I want, that I need that I love. That's good for me and wholesome. And it's going to help my generation. Like we're going to pay. We will pay for that. But where you're taking away the education, where you want my money and you want my intelligence, you know where you want my money and you want my choice, well.

00;26;14;14 - 00;26;17;07
Stephanie
You know, and your health, they they want your health.

00;26;17;07 - 00;26;26;02
Seth
That is a cost that is too high to pay. And you talk. I'm trying to remember. Do you guys homeschool? Alicia?

00;26;26;05 - 00;26;52;14
Alisha
We do, we don't. My, I think we're more of, like, hybrid. Riley goes to a charter program, so, like, okay, great. Awesome. A, and it's very, like, outdoor based. We're kind of deciding on our little guy what we should do with him, because we are like, he is not a 8 to 3. It's okay.

00;26;52;17 - 00;27;13;28
Alisha
Yeah. So we're we're I'm sure we go back and forth. Some days we're like, let's homeschool. With my husband's job, it's pretty flexible. I'm. And he he like he wants to be homeschool that. So I'm like your props, dude. But we're not. I still, I'm so busy with my business, he still technically works full time.

00;27;14;01 - 00;27;20;11
Alisha
So. Yeah. No, our little our daughter is at a charter, and then our little guy's at, like, oh, my. Sorry.

00;27;20;11 - 00;27;37;18
Seth
Preschool. Oh. Love Montessori. Love Montessori. The reason I bring it up is you talked about institutionalizing. Yes. It taking, taking this inspiration for this this I'm going to call it medicinal food. We're going to start calling you Medicine Woman. Actually, that's my, that's.

00;27;37;21 - 00;27;39;10
Alisha
That's my medicine woman.

00;27;39;12 - 00;28;07;15
Seth
You know, that's that's my name for Stephanie. I call her buffalo. Buffalo medicine woman. Anyway, we, taking medicinal food, right? And when I say I'm talking like the Hippocrates approach, let food be thy medicine, and medicine be thy food. I'm not talking about pharmaceuticals. I'm talking about the healing power that's come from the earth in the in the form of our food.

00;28;07;15 - 00;28;29;02
Seth
And and we prepare it and put it together. You talk about institutionalizing it. And I brought up schools. And so I really was just asking what's your context from a school standpoint? Because that's a yes. Should we have better food in hospitals. Absolutely. We're talking about we're in we're in major, major for the most part, crisis recovery time.

00;28;29;04 - 00;28;58;13
Seth
Right. But how about we never go there? Or how about we cut out 80% of that. And so that comes down to school. The food in our homes and the food in our schools. Right. We homeschool so we don't have kids. We've done it all. We've done, you know, little private lot of charter, bunch of public, bunch of homeschool, bunch of whatever, you know, what we'll just call it, you know, applied free education.

00;28;58;13 - 00;28;59;24
Seth
Yeah. That we do.

00;28;59;28 - 00;29;05;01
Alisha
For your family. Yeah. But I just think about. And each kid is different, you know.

00;29;05;01 - 00;29;05;27
Seth
And I guess they.

00;29;05;28 - 00;29;39;00
Alisha
Are. I feel that really a lot, because I feel like my daughter loves is a social person. She wants to. Not necessarily for school, but she wants to be there for her friends. Sure is. My other kid, I think is going to be the complete opposite and could care less about social friends time, you know? So I think it does also depend on your child, you know, like, I don't think that if you have the opportunity and you can like, I don't think you should just do the public because that's what everyone does.

00;29;39;00 - 00;29;42;29
Alisha
You know, I think it shouldn't be what's best for your kid. Absolutely.

00;29;43;02 - 00;29;48;04
Stephanie
And there's a lot, especially since Covid. I feel like homeschooling or co-ops.

00;29;48;07 - 00;29;51;01
Alisha
Yes. They've given a lot of options now for families.

00;29;51;06 - 00;29;52;08
Stephanie
Yeah.

00;29;52;10 - 00;30;06;03
Alisha
So they can supplement them, too. They have that program where you can get I think it's like $8,000 per kid to help with what kind of schooling works best for your family, which I think that is really awesome. Yes.

00;30;06;06 - 00;30;27;11
Seth
That's powerful. And, you know, we have a, you know, of our the two children that are home right now. Well, they're both pretty social, but, you know, I mean, they're in you know, they're in ballet and they're in swim and they're in a different dance class and, you know, they're in horse lessons with private tutor, you know, and, you know, they're doing you know, they've done some junior rodeo.

00;30;27;11 - 00;30;40;27
Seth
So it's, you know, it's just trying to provide them a life. But anyway, anyway, let's talk about the food issue. Yeah. It, it it appalls me at what you know, what we call healthy food and.

00;30;41;00 - 00;30;41;29
Stephanie
Or just food in general.

00;30;42;05 - 00;30;48;14
Seth
Well, where we call it, you know, how can we call? And you're talking to a guy who loves the taste of Coca Cola, right?

00;30;48;21 - 00;30;49;14
Alisha
Speaker.

00;30;49;17 - 00;30;50;24
Stephanie
Do you haven't had one in a while?

00;30;50;24 - 00;30;55;06
Seth
I might be, you know, have you noticed? Yeah. Have you noticed that I have just.

00;30;55;08 - 00;30;57;00
Alisha
I just soda in general.

00;30;57;02 - 00;31;04;19
Seth
Yeah. I'll have a ginger beer every once in a while, but but I used to have a Coke about once a week. Sometimes more.

00;31;04;21 - 00;31;06;01
Alisha

00;31;06;03 - 00;31;17;04
Seth
Like like I, I've never been the 32 ounce guy. Like, I'm not that guy. I'm the I'm a I'm. I'm getting some tacos. I'm getting real Mexican coke. Give me the real sugar. Like, right. Kind of a thing or you're.

00;31;17;04 - 00;31;18;09
Alisha
Going, but not for the real.

00;31;18;09 - 00;31;25;07
Seth
But you, you talk about Coca Cola sponsoring the hospitals and the LifeFlight. And this LifeFlight, sponsored by Coca Cola.

00;31;25;09 - 00;31;26;02
Alisha
Right? Yes.

00;31;26;09 - 00;31;43;17
Seth
This this was made possible by Coca Cola, both the flight itself and and the fact that that they keeled over at mile seven, but you know, amazed that I, you know, we call Doritos food like like the, the but we're teaching that in our schools is what I'm saying, right.

00;31;43;17 - 00;31;43;24
Alisha
Yeah.

00;31;43;24 - 00;32;06;14
Seth
And I'll just kind of cut to the chase. And I love, I love, this little vignette about Japanese schools and what, what does nutrition look like in Japanese schools? They have a full time nutritionist on staff. Right. This is a teacher then then goes to extra couple of years a certification in nutrition. Then they prepare all meal.

00;32;06;20 - 00;32;09;27
Seth
There's no processed meals at a Japanese.

00;32;09;28 - 00;32;14;12
Alisha
For me it's 100% made from scratch. Everything comes in that day.

00;32;14;12 - 00;32;36;15
Seth
They're making the miso soup. They're you know, they're bringing all of this in it's scratch kitchen. And then there's education. And it has to be this way. It can't just be delivering it to your children because listen, when they go out of the school they're going to have to make choices. Right. So how do we educate. But they go, okay, here's what all your carbohydrate is.

00;32;36;18 - 00;32;56;21
Seth
Here's what your protein is, you know, here's what your fat is. And here's the end. And we're going to teach that so that you know what you're consuming. And and in the US for the most part, like I'm waiting I'm still waiting to see this. Like I don't see that we're still feeding these kids macaroni and cheese and garbage.

00;32;56;21 - 00;32;58;26
Stephanie
Thank you. Yeah.

00;32;58;28 - 00;33;38;21
Alisha
But, it's $19 billion that is allotted for our food nutrition programs in the United States. $19 billion. And out of that, $19,000,000,000.41 goes to the children per kid, 40 $0.01. So how can you feed a kid? I'm $0.41. You can't, you cannot. That's where there needs to be a few. The government needs to get out of the school programs, and they need to let local farmers and local people like me take over the nutrition program.

00;33;38;23 - 00;34;08;03
Alisha
Oh, beautiful. That's thing. There's there's too much money involved because all these, players in the playing field, they're getting a little bit of the money and a little bit of the money and a little bit of the money. And they're finding, you know, Nabisco. Nabisco will do the Lunchables, and Smuckers will do the sandwiches, and Macintosh does the cut up packaged apples, you know, and they subsidize everything.

00;34;08;05 - 00;34;37;21
Alisha
And then what's left is the $0.41 for the kids. You know, it's it's the the big people that are getting all the money and it's it's horrific because it's like, these are our children that our will be our future politicians, our future present, our future teachers, you know, our future scientists. And we're feeding them garbage. And then we're like, now go sit down for eight hours and shut up and learn, you know, for life.

00;34;37;23 - 00;35;02;22
Alisha
But that's it's the truth, you know? And then we have all these kids who are ADHD and attention, you know, all these attention problems. And we're like, they get school lunch rush. These kids get school lunch every single day. And we wonder why they're so hyperactive and, you know, just it's sickening and sad. And I hope there is some real change.

00;35;02;24 - 00;35;34;15
Alisha
I hope that they put, I would say, a little bit more money back into the communities to provide food for our children. Because I think there would be more people who would step up and be like, no, I I'll take on the nutrition program. You know, I would be and I have contacted, Wasatch County and have tried to get in there at any sort of way, but it's it's so controlled, you know, they're like, no, we can only buy from this reputable source.

00;35;34;15 - 00;35;48;11
Alisha
And I'm like, so you can only buy glyphosate apples from this place. You're telling me and it's I don't know. I don't know how to get into. But yeah, a.

00;35;48;14 - 00;35;51;10
Seth
That's a big mountain to climb. But but.

00;35;51;12 - 00;35;51;20
Alisha
I need.

00;35;51;22 - 00;36;13;28
Seth
A reformation that makes that that needs to be made. And hey, you know, I mean, we're we're at a crossroads with the national attention, which is important. Everything. The most important thing is grassroots. It's what you're doing. It's you're reaching out to the school district and saying, hey, we provide this. It's you teaching moms, right? Providing meals and teaching moms and families how to do this for themselves.

00;36;13;28 - 00;36;21;28
Seth
It's us. It's me massaging beef so that Stephanie can have her non-high maintenance lifestyle.

00;36;22;01 - 00;36;49;05
Stephanie
Breathe and, you know, educating our own children. Recently I've said this before, but, teaching our seven and nine year old that are at home about seed oils and about food dyes and about good sugars and bad sugars and, those types of things. And then long story short, showing up to dance class and one child is in dance and the other one's in the other room with a couple girls who are waiting for their class, right after.

00;36;49;07 - 00;36;56;09
Stephanie
And I overhear my daughter saying to them, oh, we don't go to that restaurant because they use a lot of bad seed oils.

00;36;56;11 - 00;36;57;09
Seth
And seven years old.

00;36;57;09 - 00;37;03;02
Alisha
You love it, though, doesn't it? Make your book bomb? Hyattsville sarcasm. You're like, oh yes, you are listening.

00;37;03;04 - 00;37;20;12
Stephanie
Yes, it was bursting and then on top of it, she's like, because they're like, what? And she's like, mom, teach them about seed oils. Can you tell them what it is? That's. So I got to talk to these, you know, young girls about seed oils. And then later, you know, our daughter was just like, mom, why don't they know about seed oils?

00;37;20;12 - 00;37;29;04
Stephanie
How come you know? And I know now, but they don't know about it. So I got to talk to her about that and, you know, educate ING, helping to educate each other.

00;37;29;06 - 00;37;49;26
Alisha
And so it's a lot of fun to educate the kids. And I love how they come out with like, my kids do it a lot to like my, my parents personally. Oh, yeah. And my daughter will call it like my she'll call my dad out just flat out. And she's he's like, I have never been embarrassed by your child because she'll be like, do you know what's in that?

00;37;49;26 - 00;38;16;07
Alisha
That's titanium dioxide. And that gives you cancer. Like, I feel like so serious too, because I just do it all the time to that because, well, I do not really mind because they don't really get it. But like my, my niece or my nephew, I'll, I will be like, hey, Johnny, you know what you're eating? And I'm like, you know that food dye that gives rats tumors?

00;38;16;09 - 00;38;28;23
Alisha
And it's like. And then my sister in law, I'd be like, Johnny hasn't had Skittles in months because you scared the crap out of him. It's like, well, good, good job.

00;38;28;25 - 00;38;59;14
Seth
As as a child that grew up at the five and dime, spending a significant portion of my takings and my earnings on every form of sugar and food dye back in the day, I thank you, Alicia, for for cutting the generation, you know, cutting the, you know, changing the course. It is part and I think a lot of people don't realize and it's not really important.

00;38;59;17 - 00;38;59;27
Alisha
Yeah.

00;39;00;03 - 00;39;16;12
Seth
You look at the state of so many people's health. We've got a show on autism coming up. And, you know, you go from the 1970s to the current number, right? Like, will you just think that this is just happening just naturally.

00;39;16;14 - 00;39;17;10
Alisha
No, no.

00;39;17;11 - 00;39;20;27
Seth
This is lifestyle induced.

00;39;20;27 - 00;39;21;09
Alisha
Yes.

00;39;21;16 - 00;39;24;18
Seth
Passed on through a generation.

00;39;24;20 - 00;39;33;21
Stephanie
So and I feel like a lot of times it's not like, you know, if, if my parents knew or if their parents knew, way back when would they be doing it? Probably not.

00;39;33;26 - 00;39;58;09
Alisha
Know that the more you know, you just it's learning, right? It's. Yes. It's just I, I find it pretty easy. It's not and I don't, don't get sad about it either or anything like, I don't mourn my past life or anything like it's it's just you get. I feel like I personally, I'm just getting smarter, more educated, which is leading me to a more healthier life.

00;39;58;11 - 00;40;17;05
Alisha
And so people are like, don't you live kind of a boring life? Like, you don't do this. You do that and you don't do this. And I'm like, no. Like, if anything, like, I love my life now. Like, I feel so good. I could never go back to, you know, the things that I used to do. Like it just I, I would never go back.

00;40;17;05 - 00;40;20;05
Alisha
I just, I know too much now. Well, yeah. Okay.

00;40;20;07 - 00;40;27;14
Stephanie
It's just like, you know, having a taste of freedom. But everything captive and they have a taste of freedom. They're not going to go back and say, I want to be captive.

00;40;27;17 - 00;40;29;11
Alisha
You know, it's it's.

00;40;29;11 - 00;40;43;12
Stephanie
Kind of the same thing. You know, I feel like since we've really overhauled the way that we're eating and, you know, different lifestyle changes, I feel like, you know, sometimes, like last night we went to a wedding reception. I'm like, oh, that ice cream looks so good. And it was vanilla.

00;40;43;12 - 00;40;43;26
Alisha
Soft.

00;40;43;26 - 00;40;45;05
Seth
Soft serve ice cream.

00;40;45;11 - 00;40;59;04
Stephanie
It be food dyes, at least in there, you know, I'm like, okay, I'll just have a little bit, which typically I, I wouldn't even be able, you know, I'd have a big old thing and want more. But now that I've done this I'm like, oh my goodness, I don't know that I could have eaten more than I got.

00;40;59;04 - 00;41;04;25
Alisha
Yeah, it's it's overly sweet now. Yes. Your body's kind of like I would feel good with one bite.

00;41;04;27 - 00;41;18;13
Stephanie
Yes, yes. And even honestly, even after, like when I went to bed, I'm like, oh, I'm kind of sick. Yeah. Like, I kind of wish I didn't eat, you know, maybe had only one bite. Instead of ten, you know?

00;41;18;15 - 00;41;19;13
Alisha
Yeah.

00;41;19;15 - 00;41;29;06
Stephanie
But it's just that that natural progression of everything tastes so much better when I eat fruits. Oh my goodness. The flavor and the sweetness is like candy.

00;41;29;08 - 00;41;32;16
Alisha
Oh it is. The fruit sometimes is too sweet for me.

00;41;32;23 - 00;41;44;23
Stephanie
Yes. Yeah. So I don't typically eat near as much as I used to. Yeah. All right. So how can busy moms prioritize health without burning out?

00;41;44;26 - 00;42;08;14
Alisha
I, I personally think that it's pick up pick. What is more, what what is important to you? I think there is just a lot of this kind of, like, greenwashing. I think you can kind of get over weighing over your head, because there is so much about, like, healthy lifestyle, nontoxic, organic. What do I feed my kids?

00;42;08;16 - 00;42;28;02
Alisha
So I always tell people I'm like, pick your three main things, you know, is it do you want to have, you know, organic food you want to have clean, clean cleaning products in your house? You know, pick what? Pick what you can afford, pick what you can do and pick what makes sense, you know, for your lifestyle.

00;42;28;02 - 00;42;56;11
Alisha
Because I feel like people are like, I have to do everything at once, and then they don't feel like they can do anything, and then they just give it all up, you know? So I think the key to really, is what is important to you. And then going from that, picking what, you know, also because things let's be honest, the nontoxic life and nontoxic food is expensive.

00;42;56;13 - 00;43;18;10
Alisha
A lot of people can't afford to do everything. So that's why I, I don't want people to be overwhelmed when they are learning about, you know, a nontoxic life. And pick what's important for them and their family. And then I think once you start doing that, then you start it just slowly all starts happening, you know, you start being able to.

00;43;18;10 - 00;43;44;22
Alisha
Okay, I got this, and you start realizing, like, I can afford to eat this way in this budget, you know, and not compromise our family's health. And then you can maybe add, okay, I'm going to buy the nontoxic cleaning toxic cleaning products. Now, you know, just do what works for your family, without it being so overwhelming. That's where I feel like people fail, is they just feel like this is really overwhelming.

00;43;44;22 - 00;43;57;29
Alisha
And, you know, what do we put on my body? What do I put in my body? What do I put on my hair? What do I put under my armor? You know, it's just it's a lot. And for people who are coming into this, it is overwhelming, you know.

00;43;58;06 - 00;43;59;02
Seth
How do I purify.

00;43;59;02 - 00;44;11;06
Alisha
It around my box? Like, those things are 400, you know, like that's where I'm just like, no, no, just start buying organic fruit. Go there, start there, you know. Yes.

00;44;11;08 - 00;44;21;26
Seth
Well, and and there is this idea that, oh, it's expensive to do these things. Well, yeah. No. Can we just bought Jasper's. We have, we got Jasper's air purifiers for the. Oh my.

00;44;21;26 - 00;44;32;22
Alisha
Gosh. I literally was looking at those two nights ago in my car because I had like a $400 off one, and I was still I was like, gosh, it's still 2000.

00;44;32;24 - 00;44;44;19
Stephanie
Yes. We actually got a screaming deal around Black Friday. So we're working with a, a natural doctor. And so we had her coat on top of it, and it's soft. And it was a great.

00;44;44;21 - 00;44;45;05
Alisha
Result.

00;44;45;05 - 00;44;47;12
Seth
For we bought four machines.

00;44;47;15 - 00;44;48;02
Alisha
Wow.

00;44;48;03 - 00;45;01;26
Stephanie
Because the more machines you bought, the bigger discount they gave you. And then on top of our doctor's code, I think we ended up paying. I don't remember how much it was, but it was like buy to get to free, pretty much.

00;45;01;28 - 00;45;04;00
Alisha
Like it was. And I was pretty much, I.

00;45;04;00 - 00;45;06;09
Stephanie
Should say, by two on shell Get two free.

00;45;06;09 - 00;45;09;21
Alisha
Yeah, yeah. It was screaming, screaming deal.

00;45;09;21 - 00;45;13;19
Stephanie
So we're like, okay, how can we not get, you know, for for the whole house.

00;45;13;21 - 00;45;14;02
Alisha
Yeah.

00;45;14;09 - 00;45;35;07
Seth
And I'll tell you like three years ago, there would have been no way I was going to spend several thousand dollars to clean our air. Right. And and so I think, I think one of the things in answer to your question is you have to realize that when you're working with people who are when you're working in a community and you're learning from people, and that's one of the things I get in a community.

00;45;35;10 - 00;45;58;29
Seth
Get in a community with Alisha, right? Get in, get in our proactive health and wellness community, get in the forever Young show coming into this show is yeah, this show is the community. And then you can choose other ones too, right? And you start to learn. But you also have to realize that, like, like I was just a few years ago, I was crunching Doritos on the road and down and, you know, down in a cove.

00;45;59;02 - 00;45;59;22
Alisha
And it's it's.

00;45;59;22 - 00;46;00;06
Stephanie
True.

00;46;00;06 - 00;46;05;14
Seth
And and eating four pieces of pie in a, in a, in a setting because I can just call me Superman.

00;46;05;14 - 00;46;06;26
Stephanie
Right, right. It doesn't cookies.

00;46;06;27 - 00;46;07;07
Seth
You know.

00;46;07;07 - 00;46;10;15
Stephanie
I mean, they were homemade, so they were better, but still.

00;46;10;17 - 00;46;30;08
Seth
But most of the people that you're talking to who are people of education or influence, they've just stacked just like you said. Alicia, one experiment in their lives, upon another, upon another, upon another. You know, you can't. You don't buy the red light and the infrared sauna. We love ours.

00;46;30;11 - 00;46;31;26
Alisha
And. Yes.

00;46;31;28 - 00;46;39;13
Seth
And and the vibration plate and the jasper air purifiers and the water distiller.

00;46;39;20 - 00;46;44;07
Alisha
Where we would overwhelm people. And they. You like this is $10,000 worth the stuff?

00;46;44;14 - 00;46;47;10
Seth
Yeah. Yeah, I can't afford that. But but I.

00;46;47;10 - 00;46;49;24
Stephanie
Do. And I got most of those on sale.

00;46;49;27 - 00;46;51;23
Seth
Well yeah. Let's she is the.

00;46;52;00 - 00;46;52;12
Alisha
She is.

00;46;52;12 - 00;46;56;06
Seth
The CSO. She's the chief savings officer in the family.

00;46;56;10 - 00;46;59;20
Alisha
Taking on like, the wellness saver, something.

00;46;59;20 - 00;47;01;00
Seth
She she is good.

00;47;01;06 - 00;47;05;11
Alisha
Things are on sale that are in the realm. This realm you should be like, hey, buy it now.

00;47;05;11 - 00;47;09;21
Seth
There's no maybe that can be part of our maybe part of the forever young.

00;47;09;26 - 00;47;11;10
Stephanie
Not right now. Maybe in the near.

00;47;11;10 - 00;47;11;28
Seth
You got a lot to do.

00;47;11;28 - 00;47;12;13
Stephanie
But not right.

00;47;12;13 - 00;47;12;17
Alisha
Now.

00;47;12;17 - 00;47;28;10
Seth
Yeah, but there is something you can do. You. Just like you said, Lisa, you can start with something that's important to you right now, or that you're learning. And what you may find is that if you're not by how much is a big but how much is the big bag of Doritos these days?

00;47;28;12 - 00;47;51;02
Alisha
Well, the is that at the gas station? Because I did an April Fools thing. And I bought a bag. Well, the small bag, the little snack pack bag was 375. And this is at the gas station. So to the grocery store, it's a little bit cheaper. But the big bag of Doritos was 899.

00;47;51;04 - 00;47;55;28
Stephanie
Crazy at Costco. You can get it on sale for like, $4 the family size.

00;47;55;28 - 00;48;00;23
Seth
Okay, so but even even it were on sale right when it's not on sale, it's probably like six.

00;48;00;24 - 00;48;01;15
Alisha
Wow. Really?

00;48;01;16 - 00;48;25;11
Seth
7 or 8? Okay. 7 or 8. So let's just say let's just take seven, $8. Okay. For a big bag and you think, you know, or maybe, maybe you're the conscientious mom that wants to make sure everybody gets their variety because, you know, you can't just buy one bag because every kid has to have their choice. Do they want the Cheetos or do they want that the, you know, the stinking Hot Cheetos or they want but but you know, you go get the the individual bags at Costco in the box.

00;48;25;11 - 00;48;29;17
Seth
Right. So you got the variety pack and you're spending, I don't know, 678.

00;48;29;19 - 00;48;31;25
Stephanie
Oh no, no, it's more than that at Costco.

00;48;31;25 - 00;48;35;16
Alisha
Yeah. The price is like ten nine nine okay. Yeah. So I'm like.

00;48;35;18 - 00;48;48;24
Seth
1099 and there's absolutely nothing. We're not even going to go to the negative toxic side and all the chemicals that are in there. We're just let's just straight up nutrition. There is nothing in there for your kids.

00;48;49;01 - 00;48;52;19
Alisha
No. And available if there's empty.

00;48;52;21 - 00;49;14;29
Seth
So you're basically throwing away 7 to $10. What is a bag of carrots. And again you know, what is a bag of even carrots. Organic a small bag okay a few bucks. And then what if you were to buy you know, some you know, some some other vegetable, right. Pick up. You know, your fetch like for $10.

00;49;15;02 - 00;49;15;10
Alisha
Yeah.

00;49;15;13 - 00;49;35;09
Seth
You could get more. You could get, you know, your kids would be so sick of carrots. But that's the point. Like, they actually they won't be sick of carrots when they don't have that stuff available. They often will choose the good. But again, just don't make it available and teach them. It doesn't cost you any more to provide that side dish for your kids lunch.

00;49;35;14 - 00;50;02;10
Seth
That has seven carrot sticks, you know, a piece of cauliflower and a few organic grapes haven't been sprayed to the hilt, right? Like for I'm going to say for half to two thirds. You're nourishing that child as opposed to just empty money and like go-gurt your Doritos, whatever the yo play yogurt, the lunchable that you're feeding your kids.

00;50;02;10 - 00;50;02;24
Seth
I mean, what.

00;50;02;24 - 00;50;05;03
Alisha
You're you're you're a Smucker's sandwiches like.

00;50;05;04 - 00;50;07;04
Seth
Smucker's sandwiches.

00;50;07;04 - 00;50;07;24
Alisha
All the time.

00;50;07;24 - 00;50;27;04
Seth
You know, making peanut butter sandwich and like again I'm. And this is how I grew up. So I mean I speak from experience on grandma sycamores bread you know, which we always used to you know, we thought that was a better option. And actually maybe frankly, those are probably all the same. We do sour dough now. Like if we're going to do gluten we're going to do Italian pasta.

00;50;27;06 - 00;50;36;10
Seth
Yeah, right. Imported Italian pasta without glyphosate. And and we're also going to, you know, we're going to do a salad, a, a.

00;50;36;12 - 00;50;36;25
Alisha
Real.

00;50;37;01 - 00;50;44;25
Seth
Here's a greenwashing to salad, like next time you go to the grocery store. Yeah. I can't buy sourdough bread at the grocery store because it doesn't really exist.

00;50;44;28 - 00;50;47;16
Alisha
It's just a flavoring. Yes, yes, but.

00;50;47;16 - 00;50;58;08
Seth
We have a local baker here. Abigail's oven. Shout out to Abigail's oven in Spanish Fork, Utah. Who makes the best sour dough? Other than some of the homemade sourdough in our community.

00;50;58;10 - 00;50;59;19
Stephanie
Commercial. Frida.

00;50;59;20 - 00;51;19;27
Seth
Right. We'll. Fred, we'll give you a shout. Will. Frida, you know who you are? I mean, I mean, Mrs. W, but, you know, giving our kids some some sour dough, like the real ancient sour dough. Yeah. You know, like that sour dough by the way, is $12 a loaf, like, like, don't get me wrong. Like, that's that's cheaper.

00;51;20;03 - 00;51;38;07
Seth
That's not as cheap as the 99 cent loaf that you have to eat five sandwiches. But I'm just saying there gives and takes. It is not just cut and dried. Oh, it costs more expensive to eat healthy. Try us. Like try me and and and try yourself. It doesn't have to be out of reach.

00;51;38;10 - 00;51;44;24
Stephanie
So what are your favorite nontoxic swaps and wellness hacks?

00;51;44;27 - 00;52;17;26
Alisha
Oh, I, I love, my non top swaps. And see for pots and pans. I love cast iron. That's I would say I mostly use cast iron. I did because I was influenced by Instagram, I did by an R playset, which is totally nontoxic as well. They're just they're really pretty. They're beautiful pots and pans.

00;52;17;28 - 00;52;19;29
Alisha
I do love our, the, our place.

00;52;20;01 - 00;52;23;28
Seth
And what is what's our plate? What is it? Is it ceramic? Is it stainless?

00;52;24;00 - 00;53;06;12
Alisha
Okay. Yeah. And, stainless steel. Those I think, like my top three stainless steel, cast iron or ceramic, for, the house to aluminum foil is really popular, right? Everyone likes to use aluminum foil. I'm like, you're literally putting aluminum into your food. And I get sometimes you can't get away with it. So my tip, our guest might trick, I should say, is if you have to use aluminum, put parchment paper below first and then put the aluminum on top.

00;53;06;14 - 00;53;23;06
Alisha
Because for me, sometimes we can't get away with that. Working in an, commercial kitchen, I sometimes have to use aluminum. And so that's what we do. We use the unbleached, parchment paper, and then we cover it with the linen. So at least it's not getting into it's.

00;53;23;06 - 00;53;24;22
Seth
Not seeping in there.

00;53;24;25 - 00;53;27;11
Stephanie
Have you ever used, beeswax wraps?

00;53;27;11 - 00;53;48;06
Alisha
Yes. The beeswax wraps are great. I love them, they obviously just can't get hot. Nothing. They can't cover anything that's warm. So there's that. I kind of learned that lesson. Even even just slightly warm, I, I won't myself it. Yeah. Yeah, I melted it on. I can't remember what it was. I think I heated something up and I just covered.

00;53;48;06 - 00;54;05;21
Alisha
Oh, it was just a glass, one of the ceramic glass measuring cups, and it had maybe coconut oil or something, and it only been heated not too long. But anyways, I covered it, left and came back, and the beeswax melted into the into the coconut oil. I was like, wow, what's.

00;54;05;21 - 00;54;10;21
Seth
Kind of like sealing the bottle? It's like ancient sealing, right?

00;54;10;23 - 00;54;20;16
Alisha
Love beeswax. Stainless steel. My kids both go to school and with stainless steel lunchboxes and love it they.

00;54;20;18 - 00;54;21;26
Seth
Because no plastic.

00;54;22;01 - 00;54;42;19
Alisha
Plastic is everywhere. And I'm just like, like we've got to start being conscious about like what we're our kids are living in plastic. They're being served in plastic. They're taking baths and plastic like. So I feel like there are little easy things that we can do as parents, you know, get a stainless steel lunchbox,

00;54;42;22 - 00;54;43;10
Seth
Or glass.

00;54;43;18 - 00;54;46;13
Alisha
Or. Yeah, I guess not preferred for myself.

00;54;46;16 - 00;54;57;14
Seth
But the I'm like, I'm like, I've got a great idea. Here's, here's the guy hack and the girls are like, this is a show for women who know Seth. Bad idea of like, okay, that's not making this.

00;54;57;17 - 00;54;59;29
Stephanie
You know, if it was an adult, then yes.

00;55;00;03 - 00;55;30;29
Alisha
Oh, yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm really to, Like, clean water for the bath. So I've just got, like, little filters that go over the bathtub, because that's another thing, is not everyone can afford a fully filtered water system in their home. And so the little they're like 29, 99 on Amazon, and you just put it right over the bathtub, that that's been a game changer on my kid's skin.

00;55;31;01 - 00;55;39;29
Alisha
I think that's also why a lot of children have such bad skin issues is obviously from food, but our water is so harsh on their skin.

00;55;40;02 - 00;55;50;15
Stephanie
Well, if you think about everything that's in the water and then you're showering or soaking tub or anything like that, and it's not typically like, hey, we're going to be in there for like two minutes, like it's, you know, yeah.

00;55;50;15 - 00;55;52;28
Alisha
No matter what bath. They say they stay in there for an.

00;55;52;28 - 00;55;57;27
Stephanie
Hour, right. Same with ours. So it's like, think of all that you're absorbing.

00;55;58;00 - 00;56;20;02
Alisha
Yes. And in each and in your city. I'm sure you guys know this, but you can look at, like, the EWG, the water in your city, to see, like, what's in your water. And for Heber, I was like, I now I'm sure it's most places, but there is so much cancer, arsenic, mercury, lead and it's all like 500 times the legal limit.

00;56;20;02 - 00;56;48;28
Alisha
So you're like, yeah, I'm crazy putting my children in this. Yeah. So that that's an easy, easy way. Easy nontoxic swap. Toothpaste. I'm a big proponent on toothpaste. Not having fluoride in our toothpaste. They remove fluoride from our water, hopefully soon. So that's a big win for us. There's so many great options in,

00;56;49;00 - 00;57;16;18
Alisha
And then, I would say more of my other, at home, you at for our house. Our like, we use really clean oils. And so swapping out I think that's another big thing is just swapping out your oils in your house. It just if you have vegetable oil, throw it away. Just get rid of it.

00;57;16;20 - 00;57;20;26
Alisha
Replace with coconut oil or avocado oil.

00;57;20;29 - 00;57;21;19
Seth
Olive oil.

00;57;21;24 - 00;57;32;29
Alisha
Olive oil. Yeah. Get the seed oils out of your house. That. That's an easy one. That's. I feel like a pretty cheap one. And that's a pretty, big one that'll impact your health.

00;57;33;02 - 00;57;38;24
Stephanie
And I love I love that you can even get, some clean oils at Costco.

00;57;38;26 - 00;57;39;24
Alisha
Yeah.

00;57;39;27 - 00;57;41;02
Stephanie
And it's, you know.

00;57;41;05 - 00;58;08;15
Alisha
It's a very effort. Yeah. I think, if you really want to, like, non or seed oil for your house, go to Costco, buy a jug of olive oil and it'll last you probably six months if not more. And they have like they have tallow at Costco. Ghee at Costco literally. Like you could go and buy two things, cooking fats and oils for your house for the most likely last.

00;58;08;15 - 00;58;29;14
Alisha
You like in the average household. Probably a long time. My house not very long, but I do a I use a lot of well I cook a lot, so I use a lot of fats and oils and like, I have a thing of tallow that's probably like this large and I use probably in just a couple of weeks.

00;58;29;16 - 00;58;29;27
Alisha
Yeah.

00;58;30;01 - 00;58;39;01
Seth
I'm excited to try this food though, from from Mountain Wellness because I'm gonna I'm knowing that that all the cities.

00;58;39;04 - 00;58;49;23
Alisha
Yeah. I would have a hard time choosing knowing because now you're like, I can literally have everything. It'll be a heart sample. We'll sample a lot for you guys if you have.

00;58;49;26 - 00;59;12;04
Seth
Like, how can we go to another like, well, you know, other restaurants we we continually are becoming more discriminatory. And I'm also doing it just because I like to like I'm on a journey of understanding my body and understanding what works. Right. And and you know, we had a show on GLP one, The Hormone recently. And Stephanie and I are doing a GLP one protocol.

00;59;12;04 - 00;59;41;22
Seth
Totally natural, all plant based. Right. So I'm really interested in what I'm eating and what am I putting in my body and how am I? I'm literally thinking of my body as fueling my body instead of just eating. Yeah, right. And so and so, you know, we'll be at the we'll be at the, you know, the restaurant and I'm like, do you know how many, how many ounces of beef are you're putting on my tacos?

00;59;41;25 - 00;59;56;12
Seth
And they're like, well, I think it's three ounces. Like, well, I ordered extra meat. So can you tell me how many ounces right now? Yeah. Should be five. And we were with our we with one of our. Well, we were three of our daughters last night, two of them younger and one of our older, our 20 year old daughter.

00;59;56;19 - 01;00;14;05
Seth
She had a roommate with her, you know, who's never out eating out with us, you know, and I'm ordering before, and he's dishing me up some black beans and, and, and I said, is that a one third of cup or is that a half a cup of black bean? Like, how big is the labor? And he's looking at me and.

01;00;14;08 - 01;00;16;24
Alisha
Like, I don't know, I just,

01;00;16;27 - 01;00;32;28
Seth
I'm like, actually, I want a corn tortilla. She said, like, you know, I, but, but, you know, you start to ask, do you know what? Do you know what these are cooked in? What are you cooking? You know, and there's so many great people who are who are bringing all this light. Right? Doctor Kasem and the means.

01;00;32;28 - 01;00;53;12
Seth
You know, Doctor Casey means and his wife a real food allergy and Paul Saladino and, of course, Oh, we need to ask this question. You don't know this story. Alicia told me this story. This is a nice little vignette. Maybe we'll end with this. Of course, we got RFK Jr and the whole thing. By the way, you should be on that.

01;00;53;12 - 01;01;06;06
Seth
You should be part of the ambassadorship for RFK Jr. And this make America healthy, I know. Yeah, I love it. I know, tell us, tell us your mama story.

01;01;06;09 - 01;01;09;26
Alisha
Of my so the original like we could I.

01;01;09;26 - 01;01;12;02
Seth
Would say that you're the og.

01;01;12;05 - 01;01;37;01
Alisha
So I made them I made a Martha hat, during Trump's first presidency. And what? Yes. So I've I've always been this one where Trump was like, let's make America great again. You know, because I've always been on board this health train. I made these hats. Let's make America Healthy again. Well, I had a lot of haters, mostly haters.

01;01;37;01 - 01;01;50;05
Alisha
All haters, I'd say for a little while, but I wore I wore it everywhere. I gave it to friends. And I want to say this was in 20. Gosh, when was this first presidency.

01;01;50;09 - 01;01;51;03
Seth
2016.

01;01;51;06 - 01;02;13;02
Alisha
2016? So 2016. And I had a couple friends, like I sold a couple of them. And so anyways, I, I told my husband I was like back, you know, 2016. I was like, we should patent. I don't know what I said. Trademark, trademark. I was like, we should trademark this. And everyone's like, yeah, it's a great idea.

01;02;13;05 - 01;02;45;12
Alisha
Fast forward to now. The modern movement actually happened and I didn't trademark it, which is a bummer because if I had, I really good now. But yeah, no, I laughed because I literally I was like, oh my gosh, the hat. I was like, I literally made this hat before anybody, you know? Now it's like, mom, now you can go on Google and click Baja and you can get from pretty much like ten different stores, all sorts of marketing stuff.

01;02;45;14 - 01;03;00;27
Alisha
But yeah, no, I, I laugh because I, I was like, I was the original Naja and people did not like it then, which was funny because I was an outcast for sure in 2016. But now, like me.

01;03;01;00 - 01;03;02;27
Seth
It was too close to Trump. Basically. It was.

01;03;02;27 - 01;03;04;09
Alisha
Just too. Yeah, it was way.

01;03;04;09 - 01;03;13;03
Seth
Too close to Trump and nobody else was saying it like, but you are the original. You were the original girl that said Make America Healthy again, am I am I mistaken in this?

01;03;13;06 - 01;03;33;19
Alisha
You're not mistaken at all. I just I wish that I had trademarked it. That's my one wish. Yes. Oh my goodness. But it's okay. But now you know what? I'm just happy that this, like, is a real movement. This is like a real thing. That it's not just a hat saying something, that it's a something that's actually physically happening in our country.

01;03;33;19 - 01;03;55;13
Alisha
And and we actually have somebody who is standing up for this that, you know, so go, okay, I'm, you know, I am so happy that he jumped on. I, I've always been a big fan of him. He's the one that, like I learned all of my vaccine, data. Data or my vaccine education and.

01;03;55;20 - 01;04;00;29
Seth
Yeah. Yeah, there you have it. The the the original major.

01;04;01;02 - 01;04;04;24
Stephanie
Prize. I haven't heard this.

01;04;04;26 - 01;04;06;28
Alisha
I have to get you guys some hacks.

01;04;07;00 - 01;04;08;08
Stephanie
That would be fun. Are you guys.

01;04;08;08 - 01;04;10;24
Alisha
Going to be healthy Expo?

01;04;10;27 - 01;04;14;11
Stephanie
I think we have, our business conference that weekend.

01;04;14;14 - 01;04;16;19
Seth
No, it's it's the 11th and 12th, isn't it?

01;04;16;21 - 01;04;18;11
Alisha
The be healthy is 11th or 12th. Yeah.

01;04;18;12 - 01;04;31;28
Seth
So we are we have we have. Yeah Alicia talks. Yeah. We have some big things. And then yeah, we have Alicia recommended that we actually set up a booth to talk about GLP one.

01;04;32;01 - 01;04;48;04
Alisha
Be Healthy Body. It was I mean, it's really just all people who are like minded that that's where I found like, I'd say 100 of our customers was last year at, the Be Healthy Michelle Jorgensen.

01;04;48;04 - 01;04;56;17
Seth
Doctor Michelle Jorgensen, who's been on the show speak there, I saw it. I'm like, Steph, we we need to get on top of this early next year and we need to speak, be healthy.

01;04;56;22 - 01;05;13;28
Alisha
I was just going to say that you should be guest speakers. That would be huge for you guys. And I just I think that'd be a great for the community too, because yes, there's I think there's a product that not a lot. I mean, I'd only known because, you know, I wouldn't have known about you guys had I not come to the Rob O'Neill.

01;05;14;02 - 01;05;15;01
Alisha
Yeah.

01;05;15;04 - 01;05;37;14
Seth
Nor would we have met the OG in the flesh and now have a real in on on on a support for our family. We're already doing a lot. We're doing great things, but having a little extra support from a meal perspective, times can be super, super, helpful. But it's again, where do you go? Well, now, now we know.

01;05;37;16 - 01;05;41;24
Stephanie
Well, at any time as I can. We live in Utah County.

01;05;41;28 - 01;05;45;00
Alisha
Is a county. Yeah. We deliver to Utah County.

01;05;45;02 - 01;06;25;29
Seth
Yeah. Giddy up, giddy up. So gluten free, dairy free, seed oil free. The gluten free issue is that, is that borne primarily because of the glyphosate issue or or how much of it is about the the evolvement? And I'm going to say the devil's meant, right. The kind of the adulteration of natural, heritage grains where we're not really eating grains, you know, the heritage grains, right?

01;06;25;29 - 01;06;43;13
Seth
Heirloom grains. We're eating super hybridized GMO grains that really don't have that. They're not laden with nutrition that maybe we would have seen, you know, a generation or two ago. What, what what's your thought on on the gluten aspect from that perspective?

01;06;43;15 - 01;07;03;29
Alisha
I you're correct, I don't I mean, how many times you hear people say, I go to Europe and I can eat whatever I want and, you know, then they come, then they live here and they can't eat gluten. They can't. And that's that's exactly why we have altered our gluten. Because we want it, you know, quicker. We want it stronger, we want more of it.

01;07;04;02 - 01;07;30;09
Alisha
So genetically modified it. And I think we've genetically modified it to the point where our bodies are resistant to it, that we can no longer tolerate it. And if that's Hashimoto's disease, if that Crohn's, if that, you know, of that celiac. Because I really believe that most of these autoimmune diseases fall in the realm of just being over.

01;07;30;12 - 01;07;58;29
Alisha
What's the word I'm looking for over tox? I don't know what am I saying, but we're basically getting way too many toxins from our food that is causing these autoimmune disease. Like I said, the the glyphosate back in the I think it was back in the 90s, we altered it to that. It could withstand basically any sort of weather.

01;07;59;01 - 01;08;24;27
Alisha
Basically it's indestructible. There there was a study saying that animals won't even eat it. I mean, if animals won't eat our wheat that's being produced, it's that's telling you something. I mean, mice eat anything when they're not touching the wheat. It's that there's a risk for wheat, too, you know, it's the corn. It's, you know, it's our other.

01;08;25;01 - 01;08;26;03
Seth
The big crop.

01;08;26;03 - 01;08;48;20
Alisha
So for me, it's all this sucks. It's all the subsidized crops. So, yeah. No, I, I really believe that if we clean up our system and if we remove, the genetically modified wheat strains and we go back to the heirloom, like the commercial that, I corn, you know, back to our traditional grains, I think.

01;08;48;22 - 01;09;07;08
Alisha
I believe there would be no celiac. There would be. I mean, yes, I think maybe there'd be a little bit of cases of people that couldn't. But I really think we would we would be healed. Like, I think most people would be able to heal their gut, that they would be able to talk like how they go to Europe and they can tolerate it.

01;09;07;10 - 01;09;32;03
Alisha
I think it would be the exact same, here in the US. I want that I've wished for that. I, you know, as much as I love the gluten free stuff that I make, I would love to be able to eat, you know, ancient grains again. And honestly, I can a little bit because I don't have celiac.

01;09;32;05 - 01;09;54;19
Alisha
And I have healed my gut that I can like, I've been able to incorporate, you know, commute an acre or is it I corn. How do you say that? I, I'm not sure. Something like that. I'm corn. Yeah. It's I'm corn or something. I can do more of those now that I have healed my gut, but I think also we just live here in the United States.

01;09;54;19 - 01;10;16;11
Alisha
And no matter what we do, you can walk outside. And it could be potentially, you know, consuming glyphosate because we just don't we don't have any bans or laws on what, you know, what we're spraying as as much as you think that you're being safe, you're a farmer down the street. He could be sprayed. You know.

01;10;16;13 - 01;10;23;20
Stephanie
Not only that, but, for us, we we live next to water. And so in the summertime, we get so many mosquitoes.

01;10;23;22 - 01;10;24;02
Alisha
Yep.

01;10;24;09 - 01;10;39;20
Stephanie
And for a long time, you know, we were just used to having so many mosquitoes and would do what we can to, you know, keep them at bay when we're outside. But then all of a sudden, for a couple of years, couple summers, I'm like, we really don't have many mosquitoes anymore this summer.

01;10;39;20 - 01;10;40;16
Alisha
This spring.

01;10;40;18 - 01;10;46;21
Stephanie
Until we were outside at our firepit and a sprayer guy was coming down our street and I was like, everybody.

01;10;46;21 - 01;10;48;16
Alisha
Inside was like.

01;10;48;19 - 01;10;50;24
Seth
Yeah, everybody grabbed the gas mask.

01;10;50;26 - 01;11;03;29
Alisha
All I heard, I mean, this is a whole other rabbit story about like DDT, how they banned DDT because they basically said that it was a, it was giving people polio. Oh my gosh, you got to go down that rabbit.

01;11;04;01 - 01;11;04;28
Seth
Oh, here we go.

01;11;05;04 - 01;11;18;28
Alisha
Yeah, that that was a really crazy one because that was like, wow. That woke me up a lot. I'm like, do we ever did we ever really have this crazy polio epidemic or was or were we spraying?

01;11;19;01 - 01;11;20;13
Seth
Did we induce it.

01;11;20;16 - 01;11;24;05
Alisha
Exactly. Yeah. Yes. I'll go ahead. I was going to.

01;11;24;05 - 01;11;34;15
Stephanie
Ask what I've heard a lot about commutes lately. And so my sister was asking me, where do you get your commute? And I'm like, I don't know. I haven't used it yet.

01;11;34;16 - 01;12;02;14
Alisha
Food in the food, nanny. That's where most of the people that I know get their commute is from her food nannies, their store fronts. And I think you can get it probably, like, on Amazon, or any maybe natural. I don't think Natural Grocers carries it. I know they do carry the Eichorn. But I don't think they carry the commute.

01;12;02;16 - 01;12;07;06
Alisha
But the commute is so great, too, because it actually has a lot of protein in it.

01;12;07;09 - 01;12;10;00
Seth
We have a friend that makes commute bread sourdough.

01;12;10;00 - 01;12;11;18
Stephanie
She, she lives in Michigan.

01;12;11;21 - 01;12;12;28
Seth
Oh she learned from the.

01;12;13;00 - 01;12;14;21
Stephanie
She has the famous sour dough.

01;12;14;21 - 01;12;15;24
Alisha
Book. Yes. Her.

01;12;15;27 - 01;12;17;20
Seth
That was that sour dough that we were eating.

01;12;17;20 - 01;12;18;11
Alisha
Delicious.

01;12;18;12 - 01;12;19;12
Seth
Oh even better.

01;12;19;13 - 01;12;19;26
Alisha
Yeah.

01;12;19;26 - 01;12;24;06
Seth
I was just like if it was just sour that would be even that, you know, I'd be filling. But it was sort of. Yeah.

01;12;24;07 - 01;12;41;10
Alisha
Amazingly, sour dough commute is, I think, a softer texture than traditional. And I think that's where it gets people because they're like, this is sour dough, but it really is. But that you can get you can get sick or not sick, but you can eat a lot of the commute because it is so soft and delicious.

01;12;41;10 - 01;12;44;23
Stephanie
Yes. It almost reminds me of like a homemade white bread. Yes.

01;12;44;23 - 01;12;45;10
Alisha
Yep.

01;12;45;12 - 01;12;53;02
Seth
Yeah. You're like, oh, this is good. Yes, this is way good. This is not what they say. You might be wondering, but this ain't wonder.

01;12;53;07 - 01;13;07;11
Stephanie
Well, it was so cute. Shoot. We were leaving her house. There's actually no it wasn't when we had done the same during Kanab. We went down to Kanab, and and she's like, oh, do you need some? Do you want a little loaf to go? She's like, Will you eat it? Like, I'll give it away if I know you're going to eat it?

01;13;07;11 - 01;13;11;28
Stephanie
And we're like, will we eat it? Yes. It'll be gone in like an hour.

01;13;12;00 - 01;13;14;13
Alisha
Yeah. Is amazing.

01;13;14;15 - 01;13;23;25
Seth
So if you were in Europe, you'd be you'd be serving you would. You would be serving or having you'd have passed that European pasta options at last.

01;13;23;25 - 01;13;31;14
Alisha
Kitchen I opened if I was that is my little cafe in Europe, I would be okay for gluten. For gluten.

01;13;31;18 - 01;13;32;11
Seth
Okay.

01;13;32;13 - 01;13;33;24
Alisha
Now is.

01;13;33;26 - 01;13;38;08
Seth
And what about dairy? Like if we were talking about non pasteurized dairy.

01;13;38;10 - 01;13;52;11
Alisha
Non pasture raised dairy I am I'm just once again I think we have altered all our dairy and nobody can digest it anymore. And that's why everyone is lactose intolerant. But you know bring back the raw.

01;13;52;11 - 01;13;53;11
Seth
Milk from.

01;13;53;11 - 01;14;14;25
Alisha
A2. I have a raw goat's milk though. We have dairy goats. So okay, I don't do raw cow. It still doesn't go great with my body. But the raw goat's milk I love. I have a glass every single night and I swear that is why I don't get sick and why my hair is so thick. Is that raw goat's milk?

01;14;14;25 - 01;14;16;21
Stephanie
I think we need a milk.

01;14;16;22 - 01;14;23;26
Seth
No one like. Like I've done the goat. So are you. Are you milking, Nubians or sons or Alpine? I have a little older man to.

01;14;24;03 - 01;14;24;27
Alisha
A full size of.

01;14;24;29 - 01;14;26;06
Seth
A Lamont. Yes.

01;14;26;11 - 01;14;28;17
Alisha
Okay. The little tiny.

01;14;28;17 - 01;14;35;29
Seth
Ears. Yeah. The devil looking goats. Yes. They look like little devils. They do their,

01;14;36;01 - 01;14;37;09
Stephanie
I've actually.

01;14;37;12 - 01;14;55;26
Alisha
I had a Nubian. And between the Nubian, the lemon juice. I will go in lemon juice all the way. They're the sweetest. They are gentle. She literally like, I have her cookies and she follows me and gets right into the, the milking and just lets me do my thing and let's.

01;14;55;26 - 01;15;12;16
Seth
Because these are two cute Nubians are cute with the floppy ears and I know it. And they've got the goat. They've got the superior to go complex. Lamont is literally look like devil animals, and so they have to really build up the personalities. And that's why that's why they are kinder.

01;15;12;19 - 01;15;15;05
Alisha
And, you know, their eyes, their eyes are so crazy. That's.

01;15;15;06 - 01;15;22;13
Seth
Yeah, they they seriously look like they went into plastic goat surgeries and something went deathly wrong.

01;15;22;16 - 01;15;32;28
Alisha
Yeah. I love I make everyone make goat cheese. So, Okay, okay. I drink lots of it. It's. And did you know to that goat's milk is the closest thing to breast milk.

01;15;32;28 - 01;15;37;09
Stephanie
I don't know that that women, if they can't breastfeed, that they.

01;15;37;10 - 01;16;04;09
Alisha
Would go back in like the, I did. That is 1800s in Europe. Specifically, I was reading this thing, when either the mom would die or if she got sick and could no longer they literally would put the babies up to the goats, and the babies would nurse off the goats. And I saw and I saw, I saw real pictures of this because I didn't believe it.

01;16;04;11 - 01;16;17;06
Alisha
And I saw multiple pictures of little babies, like, underneath, you know, I was like, oh my gosh. And now I'm in my head. I'm like, that is so dirty like that. I'm like, I'm like, oh my gosh, I hope they use so much cleaner.

01;16;17;06 - 01;16;21;25
Seth
Like clean the other, clean the other. That's why they call it a nanny goat.

01;16;21;27 - 01;16;23;03
Alisha
But really.

01;16;23;05 - 01;16;25;23
Stephanie
Yeah, I really like that term.

01;16;25;26 - 01;16;30;08
Alisha
I heard the term many, many go. It was really it was really interesting to watch that.

01;16;30;08 - 01;16;35;16
Stephanie
Yeah, I'd love to see that. I've actually never had fresh goat's milk.

01;16;35;18 - 01;16;38;04
Alisha
So you're missing what we need to get you.

01;16;38;04 - 01;16;38;14
Seth
Okay.

01;16;38;15 - 01;16;38;22
Alisha
Yeah.

01;16;38;28 - 01;16;40;02
Stephanie
Yeah. It is.

01;16;40;02 - 01;17;00;26
Alisha
So different. Like, you go to the store and you buy the goat's milk in the store. Compared to the rack of milk, no goat's milk store. I won't touch it. It smells it. Taste to it tastes terrible. But the raw goat's milk, it no smell. And just this sweet, creamy, Oh, goodness.

01;17;00;26 - 01;17;18;09
Stephanie
Yum. As a child, my parent or my, My dad was raised in the colonies and down in Mexico. Since I was a young girl, we would always have had they? Yeah. It's a with goat's milk. Yeah. And so ever since then, I'm like, oh, that's goat cheese. Okay, I'll try it. Okay. You know, because I love that stuff.

01;17;18;09 - 01;17;29;05
Alisha
But my, my employees, I bring goat's milk all the time. They make it all the time. They just, they I don't make it because they make it way better than me.

01;17;29;08 - 01;17;30;21
Stephanie
Well, do you sell that?

01;17;30;24 - 01;17;36;20
Alisha
No. Well, no, because it's technically raw and you can't, but I, you know, I say let us.

01;17;36;22 - 01;17;39;12
Seth
Let us know the days that they're making it.

01;17;39;12 - 01;17;39;23
Stephanie
We'll just.

01;17;39;23 - 01;17;40;04
Alisha
Happen.

01;17;40;04 - 01;17;43;27
Seth
We'll bring a 32 ounce jar.

01;17;43;29 - 01;17;46;05
Alisha
Glass. So like.

01;17;46;07 - 01;17;47;28
Stephanie
I'm literally salivating.

01;17;48;01 - 01;17;48;21
Seth
Salivating.

01;17;48;24 - 01;17;54;04
Alisha
I mean, it's so that's so funny. I'm like, I'm so hungry now. I feel like we've been talking about food for a while.

01;17;54;09 - 01;17;56;14
Seth
Yes, but that is your jam.

01;17;56;17 - 01;17;58;06
Alisha
It is. Yes, it is my jam.

01;17;58;08 - 01;18;01;11
Stephanie
That is. Well, thank you so much for joining us.

01;18;01;11 - 01;18;02;20
Alisha
It was fun.

01;18;02;23 - 01;18;03;21
Stephanie
Yeah, it was great.

01;18;03;24 - 01;18;25;09
Seth
Great show, great show. This will go live next week. We'll keep you posted let you know. Cross cross promote it. We'll invite you to collaborate on the reels that we put out and, yeah, I just I'm excited to get your story. I you're, you're you're just, you know, you're, you're pioneer. You're an you're an inspired pioneer.

01;18;25;11 - 01;18;29;06
Seth
And cut. And it's a wrap.

01;18;29;09 - 01;18;44;11
Stephanie
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01;18;44;14 - 01;18;58;14
Seth
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